P4P unresponsive to posts flagged for incorrect labeling of "DETAILED CONTRIBUTION"

I appreciate that your website designated proposals like mine as “detailed contribution” so that we can get credit for it, perhaps get more visibility and people can take that into consideration when comparing our votes to the more simpler, briefly written policies.

However, some policies were improperly labeled as a “detailed contribution”, and that defeats the purpose of having that label. Only proposals which that met your original idea/criteria for length/detail should be credited as a “detailed contribution.”

I have flagged a few a while ago, but nothing has changed.

Here are some top examples from various categories. Can you PLEASE correct this issue?

EDIT: I have now added a bunch of other policies marked “detailed contribution” to demonstrate the magnitude of this issue. In fact, many of these policies are DUPLICATES pending on merge requests.

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/mandatory-imprisonment-for-false-rape-sa-accusations/11764?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/1-ban-insider-trading-2-house-congress-salary-average-of-state/22086?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/get-bill-gates-out-of-our-food-the-fluoride-out-of-our-water/20643?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/stop-funding-the-world-bank-and-the-imf/22604?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/end-child-trafficking-for-real-bring-elites-to-justice/10450?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/no-more-foreign-aid-if-we-do-not-have-a-balanced-budget-and-surplus-of-reserve-money/18147?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/remove-propaganda-from-tv-and-radio-and-online/7864?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/make-weed-federally-legal-for-recreational-and-medical-use-as-well-as-release-the-people-in-jail-prison-for-possession-charges/9742?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/stay-at-home-mom-income/16133?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/salary-term-limits-for-congress/15407?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/do-away-with-the-nfa-national-firearms-act-of-1934/8053?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/no-mrna-vaccines-in-our-food/12628?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/no-mrna-vaccines-in-our-food/12628?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/no-more-taxing-our-homes-every-year/14791?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/ban-hiding-ingredients-from-consumers/14448?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/abolishing-all-dei-positions-and-initiatives/17353?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/stop-fluoridation-of-municipal-water-supplies/5229?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/remove-being-taxed-on-owned-property/7849?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/require-congress-to-use-social-security-and-obama-care/8498?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/ban-on-neurotoxins-including-fluoride-titanium-dioxide-and-aspartame-in-food-water-and-consumer-products/7977?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/end-taxation-on-social-security-payments-for-seniors/9503?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/make-lobbying-and-donations-from-corporations-illegal/6905?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/ban-ownership-of-agricultural-lands-by-non-us-entities/7038?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/death-penalty-for-pedophiles/8910?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/stop-vaccine-mandates-in-order-for-children-to-attend-school/8430?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/ban-all-gmo-foods/6642?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/ban-transgender-books-and-drag-queens-in-schools/13571?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/no-stock-buying-or-trading-for-any-politician/8124?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/affordable-dental-care/6389?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/stop-chem-trails/7236?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/release-all-classified-jfk-rfk-ruby-ridge-branch-davidian-waco-and-9-11-files/12585?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/must-be-a-usa-citizen-to-own-land-especially-not-individuals-or-corporations-from-communist-or-adversarial-countries/7436?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/massive-tax-cuts-for-families-with-stay-at-home-moms-and-children/14706?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/make-small-farming-normal-again/6324?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/stop-corporations-from-buying-single-family-homes/16016?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/stop-federal-funding-for-planned-parenthood-national-public-radio-npr-and-public-broadcasting-service-pbs/6335?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/end-property-taxes/6394?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/no-more-chemtrails-weather-modification/17130?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/get-alternative-medicine-covered-by-insurance-so-all-can-afford-it/16838?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/make-it-illegal-for-mega-corporations-to-buy-homes/6323?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/end-the-patriot-act-surveillance-on-americans-and-tsa/7174?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/force-rehiring-of-all-those-fired-for-refusing-covid-vax-with-back-pay-time/6547?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/chemtrail-ban/6560?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/no-more-chemtrails-weather-modification/17130?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/longer-paid-maternity-leave/9706?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/reduce-corporate-burnout-with-4-day-work-week/8599?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/pay-stay-at-home-mothers/13512?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/congress-can-not-create-a-law-that-they-are-exempt-from/12292?u=ashleyluna

https://forum.policiesforpeople.com/t/end-all-income-tax/14657?u=ashleyluna

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Are you addressing this to me? You flagged every common sense post on here. Why?

It is not addressed to any of those who created the policy, nor does it lessen the value of the linked posts.

This is feedback addressed for the moderators and administrators of this website.

This is not a request to move or take away any posts. I’m simply saying that they are incorrectly tagged as “detailed contribution.”

I’ve notice this problem as well, though I haven’t seen any results one way or the other on if the flagged ‘detailed contribution’ posts are actually getting relabeled.

So good work to you @AshleyLuna for putting work into this.

Whether something is ‘common sense’ is irrelevant, what matters is if someone is just saying an ‘observation’ of “Thing X is bad” or if that person actually put in genuine work into proposing a genuine solution.

Saying “Thing X is bad” if nobody can be bothered to do anything more than “Yeah, I agree that thing X is bad”.

According to whom? You? You dont get to decide that. We are in line with the guidelines.

Hmm. Here’s a screenshot of your proposal. A 2-3 sentence post is not a “detailed contribution.”

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Again, according to whom? You? This is a discussion forum for ideas. Go back to your liberal news networks. Stop trolling here.

It should be according to the website founders’ original definition in mind and intent in mind when they created it. They were the ones who tagged mine and others as “detailed contribution.” Perhaps either they should create official criteria, or perhaps not allow policy creators to self-identify the tag unless approved by the moderators.

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And I’m literally just asking the moderators to enforce their own rules/criteria.

Also, stop your foul language and attacking me for just for speaking. No one attacked you personally, or your proposal. You’re the one trolling here.

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How do you justify an undetailed post that is a mere three sentence and 28 words long as a “Detailed Contribution”?

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Along with this, many posts are being incorrectly categorized as Feedback or Collections. There’s no difference in the UI for them, which makes it super easy to accidentally do that. I flagged this problem months ago and it looks like nothing has been done to fix that or correct the posts that were improperly categorized. In fact, since the first month of P4P, I haven’t seen much if any activity from the moderators/authors. Maybe things will pick up again after the New Year.

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I noticed part of the problem, choosing what category to put your proposal in at first, there is not a wide spread of topics to choose from, for which one it show go to, so I am people are choosing what they think is the best for there proposals in, I have had the same problem, when trying to decide the best on to fit my topics.

Also people to look at the numbers of how many proposal have been entered as well comment on, I am sure they have been overwhelmed, by the amount, it’s going to take them time to work through this, plus it’s a new thing I am sure they are learning right along with us, I think they did not expect this kind of response so fast on here, like they have gotten.

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Ashley, Grant, and Waverly:

I laud your efforts to make P4P more effective, especially Ashley. I am relatively new to P4P, and wish to participate. But I too wonder if anyone is listening, and I am concerned that a lot of contributions are not really well thought out. I think the design of this site, technology, is pretty slick. So I think they did anticipate this volume of response. I think they have misplaced quality for activity. For instance, I have a basic badge for participation, This is correct, since I am still somewhat leery of participating too much and encountering folks like George. So right now I check-in once in a while to see what is happening, and work on sharping up my own policy proposal. But they should have badges, scores, and categories based on Quality, not just activity.

I do think Detail Contributions need to pass the “Sniff test” and should earn higher vote/love/post counts. Do something as simple as measuring quality by word counts up to, say 500 or 1000 words. While this does not necessarily mean that the quality is good, it certainly reflects some effort and thought. Obviously we might encounter copy and paste jobs, but the Moderator could review detail posts for coherency. While philosophically I do not support Ashley’s Maternal Health proposal as outlined (I lean more toward seeing it as a privacy and state issue), I would still wish to push her policy proposal up the quality ladder. As it stands now, I have to wade through a wasteland of half baked ideas and rants that gets lots of votes. Meanwhile detailed, well thought proposals are buried under masses of incomplete ideas. For instance, I was surprised on the number of posts (can’t really call them proposals) and high vote counts to eliminate Property taxes. While I understand the sediment, as policy posts, they are not well thought out. But there is a detail proposal for 1% bank transaction tax that would replace income and property taxes, along with all sorts of other taxes. While I am not ready to embrace that concept just yet, it is a fascinating idea that possibly could replace property taxes. I have just now learned how to flag proposals that I like so I can sort/curate and follow up on detailed proposals.

RFK has not yet been confirmed and the new administration doesn’t begin until January 20, so maybe something will happen after that. I hope RFK mentions P4P at his confirmation hearing, That would definitely get some attention and show that he has some substantial ideas. But I still think P4P needs to put more focus on quality of the content, not just the activity of the users

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