Abolish Property Taxes

No one should have to continually pay taxes on ANY purchase. Homes, cars, land, etc. The whole idea that you have to annually pay to own something you already bought, or risk having it taken from you, is ludicrous and unconstitutional.

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Agreed. Taxing income, property, anything, is unconstitutional.

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This would also apply…

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I would caveat that this applies to -personal- property taxes. Properties owned by businesses and/or corporations should have something that prevents them from just owning everything. Possibly extending this to a cap on property count or something, as I’m assuming your proposal intends to protect the average citizen from losing their home and/or transportation.

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I believe no one should have to continue to pay for something they already purchased.

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Amen. I double that. I pay over $6k for my house. The “town” calls itself a city. Haha. It’s a small little farming community in Florida and they are buying out the farmers to build houses. There is one HOA where I live. They have 16 cops but are building a 10 million police station and a library. For who? Then the cops come and sit in our HOA. We have speed bumps so there is no speeding there. I wish I had known but too late not. But I am sick of paying property taxes when they waste our money. I have heard in Florida and some other states, there is a movement to abolish property taxes. We all need to get involved and say hell no!!

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I agree. Nobody should continue to pay for something they own. Especially in regard to homes because we already pay home owners insurance, we don’t need property taxes on top of that. Also, property taxes should not be allowed to influx in price, it can go up so high sometimes that people have to sell the home they own. That’s ridiculous.

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Austin, I completely agree with your stance on property taxes. The idea that one must continue to pay for something they have already purchased—such as a home—goes against the principles of true ownership. Property taxes are not only perpetual but are also increasing exponentially year after year, placing undue financial burdens on homeowners.

For instance, when I built my home in 2007, my annual property taxes were $12,000. Seventeen years later, they have more than doubled to $25,000. Even when a homeowner fulfills their mortgage after decades of payments, they still risk losing their home through tax sales if taxes go unpaid. This creates a system where ownership is never truly secure. Additionally, there are individuals profiting from purchasing tax liens, which, in my view, should be deemed illegal.

Another point of concern is fairness. In my area, some individuals—such as those of Hasidic Jewish descent—are exempt from paying property taxes by claiming their homes as places of worship. This exemption is not equally extended to others, like myself, creating a system of inequity. On top of that, despite not having children in the school system, I am still required to pay for others’ shares of taxes.

The current system demands reevaluation to ensure fairness, equality, and the true right to ownership. Property taxes, in their current form, need to be challenged as unconstitutional.

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I hate to say it but this can be the people’s fault. Parts of the country do not have property taxes, and the ones that are there were voted in (I assume) years ago and are part of the state economic picture. Like most government viruses this will now be hard to uproot. I totally agree that they are unfair and unconstitutional. The ease of corruption is evident. My dad used to say, “You don’t own anything anymore, you just rent it from the government.”.

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This may be oversimplified, but what it really amounts to, is that we DO NOT own our properties and land, we rent them from that states and municipalities we live in. Which also brings up the point that property taxes are NOT a federal tax. This is a state and local municipality levy. Nevertheless I agree that it’s an obscene abuse.

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I would argue that capital purchases such as homes, cars, personal items, etc. absolutely should not be taxed. A taxation in any given case deprives the economy of demand that would otherwise exist, putting undue top-down pressure on goods and services. However, land specifically is not a capital good. It is a scarce resource that individuals and companies have the tendency to hoard and should remain a target of taxation in order to disincentivize its hoarding and exploitation. Landowners in cities inevitably benefit from everyone around them improving property but themselves, and thus they are incentivized to misuse their land by rent-seeking the ever-rising wave of real estate prices or rent-seeking their slumlord housing portfolios without moving an inch to improve their quality or their contribution to the value of their areas. Land needs to be taxed in order to discourage this from happening - and land alone should be taxed.

I’d recommend checking out Lars Doucet’s breakdown on Georgism. It’s quite enlightening. Your Book Review: Progress And Poverty - by Scott Alexander

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Agree!

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100000% !! by the way here is my post on that from a similar observation .

Thanks, I hope we are successful in correcting the issue.

My take on taxation and I’ll be talking worldwide because it happens in all countries, is that govs can survive very well with just import tariffs and that works perfectly when there is manufacturing in every country in the world. When so, products are exported and imported so the tariffs apply, yes makes things a bit more expensive to buy but the truth is that when zero tax we all have more $ that we keep so I think that at the end is actually cheaper to buy anything.

The problem I see as to why this system has gone so far for tens of years is because everyone is conditioned into giving away funds when there is an income or a sale so yes we’re kinda of trapped in the vicious cycle, especially that i.e. in the US is little manufacturing and even in Europe because all is sent to mostly China. And that is a big issue. Merry Christmas

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proof p-taxes are a scam watch https://youtu.be/uy3vsw30yYw?si=exEonmLyqIwkwYsL

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I’m a small business owner but I don’t own the building; I lease from the landlord. Even so, every year as the business owner I have to pay spring AND fall personal property taxes on all the equipment, furnishings, attractions, etc. that I own inside the building. Of course, these are things I’ve already bought and paid sales tax on when I purchased them. I had no idea that businesses also have to pay for personal property taxes on the equipment that we own inside our rented spaces. :exploding_head:

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You live in Croatia too? :laughing:

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For clarity, you are referring to Business personal property taxes correct? Even allowing for claiming these as deductions and any(if any) small business exemptions that your locality may have, I do agree- to a degree that you shouldn’t be repeatedly taxed on resources.
However, there’s plenty of reasons that (especially larger) businesses should pay localities property taxes. For instance, the strain that they add to local community resources(fire, police, etc), but also to avoid any failed business from cutting losses and leaving a derelict building because it wasn’t worth their effort to resale, to name a couple.

Small business protections worked into any property tax federal mandates would make plenty of sense, but at some level, so does adding cost to more lavish lifestyles and/or massive business ventures.

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This is a state issue. If you have state property taxes you need to address that with your state legislature if you have local property taxes you need to address that with your local council.
If you know someone who’s losing their property to tax sales they need to contact the Pacific Legal Foundation it’s free.
Supreme Court case **Tyler v. Hennepin County In this unanimous decision, the Court ruled that home equity theft qualifies as a taking under the Fifth Amendment, meaning that local governments cannot seize the entire value of a property to pay off a smaller delinquent property tax debt without providing just compensation

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I would be asking who’s doing the construction of that $10 million police station for 16 cops then I may be talking to all my neighbors and saying maybe it’s time to recall are sitting counsel and get a new one

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