Issues with the United States Government & Debt Economy as it Currently Functions in 2024

Issues with the United States Government & Economy as it Currently Functions in 2024

A nation whose entire conception is based on the concept of taxation, representation and a rebellious-breakaway mentality from intolerable acts, that limited our freedoms economically-passed by tyrants, is not one that you’d think would hand over their freedoms and standard of living so willingly. Yet after the Civil War, Congress passed a series of Acts that caused economic strife, inadvertently leading to increased support for government revenue for defense and war expenditures, along with closing mass amounts of independent businesses and banks, forcing merges and the creation of monopolies, mega corporations, and giant trusts. All because of mismanagement, corruption, and the resistance to tamper with resource ratio pricing, even though it had been done successfully in the past (Nugent, W. T. K. 1968).

During the conception of our nation, one of our Founding Fathers’ first debates was over how to finance the U.S… Federalists (like Hamilton) supported national banking institutions, while Anti-Federalists (like Jefferson) supported state and local banking institutions. One side believed in a manufacturing society and another in an agrarian one. During Jefferson’s time in office, the First B.U.S. (Bank of the United States) was allowed to dissolve, only having been established to finance the debts from the Revolutionary War, during this time financial institutions/taxes were established (chartered for a certain amount of time) for specific events, noting that decades the economic situation might call for a different financial solution to debt. During this time all government revenue was gained from duties on imports, exports, and excises. The first major issue of funding a war was felt in 1812 after the trading incursions by Great Britain. This allowed for support of a Second B.U.S. to be chartered for a time. During this time appropriation of funds for a standing army was limited to two years, so the debt was of little issue, it was the implication of a national financial institutions that caught attention at this time.

Our tale of tyranny moves to the beginning of the Banking War era. 1832, President Andrew Jackson vetoed the bill passed by Congress to recharter the Second B.U.S… This act of decentralization, regardless of whether Jackson’s opinion of the bank favoring the ‘monied interest’ over ‘the planters, the farmers, the mechanic, and the laborer,’ allowed for a mismanagement of large scale financial decisions resulting in the direct involvement and influence of foreign powers (Davis, J. H., Hanes C., Rhode, P. W. 2009). Due to quickly decreasing silver deposits and the lack of silver specie circulating in the economy caused by an increase in the cost to mint silver, President Jackson and Congress changed the national gold-to-silver ratio from 15:1 (15 oz. of silver to 1 oz. of gold) to 16:1. This encouraged silver bullion to be minted into specie and circulated within the U.S. instead of being sold abroad as bullion in order to achieve an economic advantage, called the Coinage Act of 1834 (Library of Congress 1834). The only true issue which was unseen and unthought of, was of the total supply of the bimetallic system (unless of course this was to encourage the physical expansion of the U.S. and to procure new natural resources from the unknowing natives, which unknowingly led to American Manifest Destiny as an accepted form of U.S. Imperialism against the natives, and the direct inspiration for Hitler’s Holocaust). Jackson’s decentralization of the U.S. economy by not rechartering the national bank, and the influence of foreign powers in local financial investments (which were speculative loans given to not-yet-existing industries by British banks) led to a high reliance on exports to Europe to uphold our economy and most of our capital investments to be in British markets rather than ones in the U.S… This resulted in British banks being in direct control of U.S. interest rates due to a paper currency trade during the Opium Wars with Qing, with the backing of silver. British banks, noticing the bubble being created by speculative investments, began to raise their own interest rates in order to halt lending practices in order to increase their own money supply. New Trade with Qing and the Philippines allowed the U.S. to keep silver within U.S. economic circulation (by using a paper currency instead), instead of sending it to China and the Philippines for trade, coupled with an influx of silver from the Mexican economy ended in over-inflating the amount of circulated silver, lowering the price. England than called in loans from the cotton/wheat export driven South forcing U.S. business owners to default on the loans they had taken from abroad due to the silver on hand lowering in price, leading us to the Panic of 1837. While Jackson’s goal was to eliminate the national debt-which he achieved-the President left individual States and local businesses to build their own debt, unmanaged by the federal government (Lepler, J. M. 2013).

Out of all the well thought-out, farseeing ideas of our founding fathers, Alexander Hamilton not foreseeing the size of our economy outgrowing that of the total supply of gold and silver is not just disappointing, it’s devastating to the future of the U.S. economy and the well being of the common class. Soon after in 1853, the market price for silver changed to a ratio of 15.66:1, Congress hesitated to debase the total value of our backing and instead passed the Coinage Act of 1853 (coin debasement vs. currency debasement) which lowered the silver content of the coins and authorized new gold specie which instead of encouraging an increase of silver in the market promoted hoarding of silver specie (Library of Congress 1855). This was the first step towards an entirely gold standard, lack of money supply and the direct tax debate (Martin, D. A. 2010). These two coin acts and the decentralization of the banking system set the tone for the rest of the monied Nineteenth Century-quite literally taking the U.S. economy in the wrong direction in terms of amounts of available resources that are considered legal backing. What ensued was one of the first world-wide economic panics, the Panic of 1857 (Huston, J. L.1999). The British Bank Charter Act of 1844 required that all banks follow new restrictions and to fill reserves equal to the amount of currency in circulation. Since the price of silver in the U.S. was too high to coin, hoarding and selling of bullion abroad occurred due to the banks in Britain, scrambling to purchase enough gold and silver in order to not be absorbed into the Central Bank of England. This blatant mismanagement(?) of U.S. legislation and international banking schemes-involving ‘paper industry’ bubbles both in Western U.S. Territories like Kansas and the in the late Holy Roman Empire, fueled anti-banking, anti-monarchy movements that spawned ideologies like that of Napoleon III, whose ideas were based upon the Revolutionary French Empire and the previous ‘multi-state, communal’ functionality that the H.R.E. or that tribal nations had grown out of, both spawning the twisted, misguided ideologies-creating differing dictatorships like the Second French Republican Dictatorship or the soon to come October Revolution in Russia, (Paul 1911).

Speculation of the end of the Atlantic Slave Trade and the abolishion of slavery as a whole only fueled conflict in the U.S. coupled with the devaluing of U.S. specie and finacial panic caused by Jacksonian decentralization, British Banking Acts, Opium Wars, the western ‘paper railroad’ bubble, Mexican silver influx, and the reliance of Southern exports to Europe during the Crimean War all led to the Panic of 1857 and the beginning of the U.S. Civil War (Davis, D.B. 1975)(Huston, J. L. 1999). Instead of a reestablishment of U.S. monetary policies, a war over the economic policies waged. The Union used wartime privileges to bypass Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution in order to fund a war effort against the South, due to a total lack of support from the North to fund a conflict against their fellow Americans, and the financial hardship that the States found themselves in. More than halfway through the war, the focus of the war effort was shifted from the reunification of the States, and instead focused on the social and racial values of the differing policies, freeing the slaves of the rebelling states in a politically/strategically motivated move rather than a morally motivated one in order to cause civil discord within the Confederacy rather than directly fight them, while also speeding up the reintegration process. Hence the blockage and ‘anaconda’ strategy of waiting out the war, to leave the South without resources or civil stability. Don’t misunderstand, the civil values of slavery and democracy were and are incompatible. The result of the freedom of slaves is the outcome that all today (hopefully) can agree with. But rather, taking the same ‘Right to Revolution’ as our Founding Fathers against Britain, and thus the protection of the citizens’ standard of living from ‘intolerable economic legislation’ (which to the Confederacy was the faulty reliance of trade with foreign powers/legislation limiting the growth of an industry; that being slavery) passed by the ‘big banking/industrial’ Union. In the late 19th Century income taxes were the hot topic debate in Congress. At the time, the first income tax acts were passed during the beginning of the Civil War crushing the vision set by Thomas Jefferson, "What farmer, what mechanic, what laborer ever sees a tax-gatherer of the United States?” In order to fund the Union’s war effort and pay the debt incurred during the war, Lincoln and both the 36th and 37th Congresses passed and signed the Internal Revenue Act of 1861, '62 and '64 which established the collection of federal taxes and raised said taxes (Folsom, B.W. 2011)(Library of Congress 1863)(Library of Congress 1866). During the Reconstruction Era of the U.S. the history and relevance of the Civil War would become about its social and racial values, as important as they are, but not it’s equally as important economic ones, for the industrialized big banking industries of the Northern States had won, and the victors get to write history.

The Internal Revenue Acts of the early 1860s were charted until 1873. In '73, the Congress at the time was debating over a new Coinage Act, as the weights and standards of specie that could be minted at a U.S. Mint had not changed since 1835 and '53, which were generally deemed as outdated. The Coinage Act of '53 had encouraged the hoarding of the pure silver specie of '35-rather than the large growth they hoped for which was achieved under Jackson’s fiscal policies (along with the use of greenbacks/fiat currencies during the Civil War). Rather than seeing the mistake of previous lawmakers, (which was the coin debasement of '53 and the lack of protection in trade of the '30s) Ulysses S. Grant signed the Coinage Act of 1873 into law. Also known as the Crime of '73, the Coinage Act of '73 abolished the use of three previous coins, established a paper tender for export trading (to prevent further loss of our total money supply/trade with Asian markets), and most importantly established a strictly gold standard by omitting the silver dollar (Library of Congress 1873)(Library of Congress 1855). This began the first great depression, called the Long Depression which would last until the end of the century. There was little to no publication of Coinage Act of '73 during its time in Congress, and it’s main supporting factor (being that the previous Coinage Acts were outdated due to them being reliant on silver, which was absent in the economy due to the Coinage Act of '53 and pure silver hoarding) was mute due to the widely known soon-to-open/boom silver mines, like the Comstock Lode Silver Mine. When citizens who had been working for weeks if not previous months-who were reliant on the income that coining/selling their silver would have brought them-arrived at U.S. Mints they were turned down. In 1873 the price of silver per oz. tanked to $0.75 forcing silver mines (see example 1), businesses who were based in silver, and citizens whose wealth was saved in silver to become homeless, bankrupt-or if you were a business, forced to merge (Bryan, W.J. 1896). Along with further debasement of our currency, Congress passed new tariffs in an attempt to finance the debt (soon-to-be-surplus due to the income tax lasting until '73) from the Civil War and Reconstruction. Along with this, a cost to mint silver dollars had been established, as it wasn’t legal tender since '73. The demand for the government to do something about the building debts and lowered price of silver that had built up due to surging mines opening in the west, so in 1890 the Sherman Silver Purchase Act was passed. The Act didn’t reestablish the free-coinage of the silver backed dollar past, but required the government to buy four and half million ounces of silver a year to help pay debts and increase silver prices (though they were still lower than pre-1873). The U.S. government sat with a surplus after the Civil War due to the Revenue Acts of the '60s lasting until the early '70s and the high tariffs brought on by the Mckinley Tariff. A great debate ensued over the issue of how tariffs would be used to deal with a large surplus that would become known as the Great Tariff Debate of 1888. To deal with the surplus, two propositions were made. One to lower tariffs on imports in order to lower government revenue, and the other to raise tariffs to lower imports therefore lowering revenue.

Rather than use the surplus government revenue on social programs, or infrastructure (progressive ideas that wouldn’t gain even modest traction for another ~30 years) Congress chose to make their goal to manage/influence trade and goods within the nation and lower total revenue by increasing rates on tariffs with the Mckinley Tariff. Their plan succeeded, but at the cost of the supply of goods, literally. Congress would rather raise taxes on the raw imported materials businesses depended on to survive, rather than figure out beneficial ways to allocate the funds for the public during a depression caused by faulty legislation. This act majorly hit smaller businesses that were forced/unable to pay the high tariffs for imports. High tariffs angered U.S. manufacturers, therefore the platform for the 1893 presidential election held promise of lowered tariffs in response to the Mckinley Tariff, under Grover Cleveland. The plan was to lower tariffs to the point of free trade on certain goods/materials and establish an income tax to make up for the lost revenue from the tariffs. Pres. Cleveland and Rep. Wilson helped to write and pass the bill, but only after Sen. Gorman helped to add hundreds of smaller amendments effectively nullifying and raising tariffs right back to their previous rates, ruining Cleveland’s plan for lowered tariffs, but while also establishing an unconstitutional, unapportioned tax. In 1895 The Supreme Court stated that, the doctrine “…that courts must close their eyes on the Constitution, and see only the law . . . would subvert the very foundation of all written constitutions.” when ruling in the Pollock v. Farmers’ Loan & Trust Co,. Case (157 U.S. 429 1895). They overturned the income tax that had been established by the Wilson-Gorman Tariff, finding it unconstitutional citing Article I, Section 9, Clause 4 of the Constitution, “No capitation, or other direct, tax shall be laid, unless in proportion to the census or enumeration hereinbefore directed to be taken.”

At the beginning of the 20th Century, more specifically in 1913, the 62nd Congress passed the Sixteenth Amendment allowing Congress to impose an unapportioned income tax contrary to Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution which states that direct taxes should be apportioned among the States per their population. Senator Aldrich proposed that an income tax would prevent another tariff being added to the recent Payne-Aldrich Tariff Act, which raised tariffs to create government revenue due to the inability to inject liquidity into the market-as displayed by the Panic of 1907 where banks failed across the country due to runs caused by a scheme to corner the market on the United Copper Company stock and J.P. Morgan had to ‘graciously’ uphold the U.S. economy using his own funds. This generated enough support for Congress to propose the Sixteenth Amendment in 1909, which passed in 1913. For the first time the U.S. had established a National Bank since the Civil War with the passing of the Federal Reserve Act. Yet this time it was supposed to function as a mixture between state banks, and a national one-but was for the first time, a permanent financial institution which ended Congress’s ability to mint/control the U.S. currency. It was also after this that the Permanent Appropriation Act of 1929 ended the expansion of the House of Representatives per the population of the multiple States. Today, 1 representative can represent up to a million people, whereas in the Constitution, Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 it plainly states that “The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made.” By ending the expansion of representation of the expanding populace, the voice of the people has been severely limited. Missouri, a population of just over six million is being represented as if it had a population of half that, per its 1920 census which the 1929 act adheres to. The 1920s saw a large era of growth fueled by the credit and loans of the Federal Reserve, ending up in large amounts of debt for U.S. citizens and businesses, seen as a normalized ‘healthy’ part of economics. The speculative market, combined with reliance on debt, rather than savings, Americans invested their liquid savings in stocks rather than goods and valuables like gold (and previously silver) thinking that the market would stay good. A speculative market combined with commercially accepted debt, credit, and loans as a way to finance rather than savings and a surplus led to the Stock Market Crash of 1929 and the 1930’s Great Depression.

In the early 1930s, progressive ideas had been popularized by union and worker movements, leading to the generalized support for President F.D.R. to move on with his ‘New Deal’ and economic progressive social programs. In 1933, as a part of his ‘New Deal’ and also to help ease the financial hardship of the Depression he signed in, with the help of Congress, the Emergency Banking Act of 1933. Which was amended along side the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917, using the powers given to prohibit people from using banks on a declared national holiday and execute Executive Order 6102. Executive Order 6102 effectively did what the Coinage Act of 1873 did, but this time under the threat of persecution and the pretense of financial disaster. 6102 required all gold bullion and specie hoarded and in circulation be surrendered to the U.S. Treasury under threat of 10 years imprisonment or $10,000 in fines, paying gold owners $20.67 per ounce of gold seized. The next year F.D.R. passed the Gold Reserve Act, ending all financial institution’s ability to redeem dollars in gold, and raising the price of gold to $35 per ounce, essentially robbing citizens of their wealth. Since then, we have moved off the standard price of gold, now using the labor of the U.S. citizen as a backing to the dollar. Americans keep working, and pouring tax money into the interest payments on the debt that Congress has incurred funding War, Insurgents, Radical Militants, over its citizens General Welfare.

Just like the speeches spoken by Hitler in the 1930s, the U.S. changed its legislation on the allocation of funds for a standing army, removing the limit, under the pretenses of ‘national security.’ In 2023 The U.S. spent $816.7 billion on defense spending, while spending $879.3 billion on interest on the U.S.'s national debt. The system of currency backing using the citizen’s continuous labor to stave off debt in order to achieve near unlimited spending, is unrepresentative, undemocratic, unconstitutional, and destined to end either in bankruptcy or extremist political/economic change. The Congress of the United States has passed a series Intolerable Acts that outweigh even that of the economic and moral depravities of Great Britain’s Acts that led to our founding. Congress has stripped away representation by passing the Reapportionment Act of 1929, Congress has devalued our currency by debasing it’s purity, replacing it’s backing with debt, and using it as a tool of Imperialism through sanctions. Legislation in the U.S. represents the monied interests who can afford to out-lobby the economic conglomerates that rule our market, rather, they define corporations as people, create legislative loopholes and footnotes. The backing of our currency needs to be based on a physical material with agreed upon value. Our government needs change - Congress needs term limits, lobbyist caps; presidential campaign funding caps, and the destruction of entangling alliances and economies with foreign powers. If funds for a standing army are going to be allocated under the pretense of national defense, the weapons of war need to stay within the U.S. territory, as defense tools rather than ones of containment. The people have a right to Life, Liberty, and Happiness, a weak dollar and an indebted economy reap the opposites of life, liberty, and happiness.

Ideas and conflict of race, creed, gender, etc. all function as a divide and conquer tactic, abroad and here at home; we are all people. True autonomy can only be gained through homesteading.

“If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.” - James Madison

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” - Benjamin Franklin

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.” - Thomas Jefferson

“The people are the only legitimate fountain of power.” - James Madison

“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.” - James Madison

“I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend.” Thomas Jefferson

“If our nation is ever taken over, it will be taken over from within.” - James Madison

“The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries.” - James Madison

“Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.” - Thomas Jefferson

“Never spend your money before you have earned it.” - Thomas Jefferson

“When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.” - Thomas Jefferson

“The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government.” - Thomas Jefferson

“The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home. A man has a property in his opinions and the free communications of them. No nation could preserve itself in the midst of continual warfare.” James Madison

Some Intolerable Acts:
•Coinage Act of 1853
•Coinage Act of 1873
•Sherman Silver Purchase Act
•ArtI.S8.C12.2 Time Limits on Appropriations for Army
•The Sixteenth Amendment
•The Federal Reserve Act
•Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929
•General Provisions; Ch. 1: Words denoting number, gender, and so forth.
•Emergency Banking Act of 1933
•Executive Order 6102
•Gold Reserve Act of 1934
•Coinage Act of 1965
•Coinage Act of 1972
•USA Patriot Act of 2002
•Homeland Security Act of 2002
•SAFETY Act 2002

Ages of some of the Founding Fathers at the time of the Revolution in 1776:
George Washington, 44
Andrew Jackson, 9
Benjamin Franklin, 70
James Monroe, 18
Alexander Hamilton, 21
Samuel Adams, 53
Thomas Jefferson, 33
Aaron Burr, 20
Henry Knox, 25
Nathanael Greene, 33
Samuel Whittemore, 81

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The purpose of this feedback is to educate, and to list economic events that I believe are necessary to understand how the economic systems that function within a government can influence and change the form of the government from the inside.

Economic systems are not this-or-that ideologies. Simple differences in numbers and allocations can determine the prosperity of millions, or the death of more. In relation to current events, I feel that the beginning of directly influential economic events starts with the coinage acts of the mid-1800s as the defining changes in the pre-industrial U.S. economy that has led to the benefit of the rich and corporate, and the downtrod of the middle class. Due to the economic functions of the United States, the idea of a representative democracy is not mirrored by the internationally intertwined economies, corporations, lack of productive/manufacturing power, deficit military industrial complexes, wars fought on the false pretense of international intervention and national security that lobbied legislation has bought. Hopefully this feedback will illustrate the slow but assured transformation of the promise of a representative democracy into a corporate neo-imperialistic plutocratic oligarchy through purchased legislation, the creation of a debt machine.

In order to achieve large amounts of spending without ‘breaking the bank’ the United States’ spending is determined and backed by labor of its citizens and the taxes imposed on their profits and possessions. In the recent past most government’s money was backed by a socially agreed upon, valuable resource. Throughout the late 19th and early 20th Centuries, the United States focused on removing the backing to our currency (gold and silver, aka bimetallism) and replacing it with a system of debt, credit, interest payments and income taxes (Goldstein, J. and Kestenbaum, D. 2011) systems which serve to lower the standard of living for the working class, limit independent businesses, fund proxy wars/insurgents world wide, and to keep over 2.2 million people incarcerated (Initiative, P.P. 2020) (Bozelko, C. and Lo, R. 2018).

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Wow Ethan - It’s so in-depth, and the citations look fascinating. I have to admit that I can’t take it all in with a cursory read, I’ll have to come back a few times to absorb it.

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Wow thanks, best compliment I could get. I’ve had this written for a couple years, only now had the proper platform.

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Here is another thought provoking piece on roughly the same topic. Would you agree with the solutions offered here? The discussion here pushes deeper still.

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Yes, this proposal is right on. The one thing I differ on, is a flat return to the older system without an analysis of how to improve the stability, and supply.

A system of protections and instructions need to be made for Congress, on how to establish other commodity recourses as viable legal tender.

Silver and Gold are great and all, but they’re limited in comparison of the potential growth of our economy. The Coinage Act of 1853 was one of their major first mistakes. They began to mint impure silver, without establishing nickle or copper as a currency backing.

Instead, seperate commodity metals should have been added to the ratio set by Congress of Gold : Silver.

Gold : Silver : Nickel : Copper, standard. But rather they debased our currency and encouraged hoarding (currency leaving circulation).

The several Panics between the 1830s to the 1920s could be accredited to speculative loans based on a speculative supply of gold and silver, and the destabilization caused by the several national banks, and of course the era of state banking.

Certain qualities of a National Bank are extemely beneficial to the economic security and national security of the country. The War of 1812 and the Panic of 1857 are perfect examples of why.

The United States had issues raising funds for, and paying off debts from both the Revolutionary War and the war under President Madison’s administration.

A National Bank protects from foreign ecnomic influence, where as state banking allowed for ‘paper bubbles’ to form when British banks gave out speculative loans for railroads that were not yet built, most of which wouldn’t. The British Bank Charting Act of the ~1844 forced all banks in Great Britain to fill their reserves of bullion and specie by calling in these loans, or to merge with the National Bank of England.

The FED, unfortunately, presses a good value of a mixture of the ‘state format’ and a ‘national bank’ by being split into different regions. A single National Bank created unequal economics regionally.

We simply need the best, most thought out idea. If botĥ authors could connect-a multi-point-of-view project would do better than any individual.

In response to this passage by @EthanHowardMfrr

The issues raised in your article regarding the structure of government, economic policy, and foreign relations can be approached with several proposed solutions:

Congressional Reform: Election Reform & Political Integrity

Term Limits: (covered in this conversation proposed by @Rovi6373’s observation ~ Salary and Term Limits For Congress)
Implementing term limits for members of Congress could prevent long-term incumbency, potentially reducing the influence of special interest groups. This might encourage more turnover and bring new perspectives into politics.

Lobbying and Campaign Finance Reform:
Lobbyist Caps: Limiting the amount of time former legislators can work as lobbyists post-tenure could reduce the revolving door between government and private sector influence.

Campaign Funding Caps:
Instituting strict limits on campaign contributions, particularly from PACs, Super PACs, or corporate entities, would aim to level the playing field, reducing the influence of money in politics.

Single-Issue Legislation: (discussed here ~ Single Issue Bills for Congress) proposed by @PatriotAK
Requiring each piece of legislation to focus on a single issue could make laws more transparent and less susceptible to pork-barrel spending or hidden corporate benefits.

Currency and Economic Policy: Economy

Return to a Commodity-Based Currency:
Proposals often include backing the currency with a tangible asset like gold or silver, or even a basket of commodities, to ensure its stability and protect against inflation. Discussed in this proposal The Classical Gold Standard by @ralphbenko , The Gold Standard Restoration Act by @TinaFahy among others (look up gold standard and you will see this topic is on the minds of many Americans).

Debt Management:
Introducing mechanisms like a balanced budget amendment or mandatory budget balancing over a certain period could prevent excessive debt accumulation, which contributes to currency devaluation.

Monetary Policy Oversight:
More stringent oversight or reform of the Federal Reserve, making its operations more transparent or aligning its goals more closely with economic stability rather than just inflation control.

Foreign Policy and Economic Imperialism:

Non-Interventionist Policies:
Advocating for policies that prioritize national defense over international military engagement or economic sanctions. This could involve limiting military actions to defense within U.S. territory.
@DouglasMacgregor 's policy proposal New Defense Policy Taming the War State is one half of the puzzle, but I do believe an ancillary arm with my Proposal for The Establishment of the Department of Peace is necessary to address the warnings by Eisenhower of a Military Industrial Complex that we must be vigilant in reigning in if it endangers our Constitutional Republic, which I would argue it has in some respects - especially because foreign interests are abusing our National Treasury to fund their wars, while also influencing public policy in ways that violate our bill of rights and endanger the writ of habaes corpus).

Reevaluation of Alliances:
Reassessing entangling alliances could mean reducing commitments where they don’t directly benefit U.S. security or economic interests, potentially saving costs and reducing foreign policy entanglement.

Sanctions and Economic Tools:
If sanctions are used, ensure they are applied judiciously and with clear, achievable goals, avoiding their use as tools of imperialism or unnecessary economic pressure on foreign nations.

General Civic Engagement:
Citizen Education and Participation:
Enhancing civic education to increase public understanding of how economic and political systems work, encouraging informed voting, and possibly supporting mechanisms like referendums or citizen-initiated legislation.

Corporate Influence:
Revisiting legal interpretations of corporate personhood to ensure that the rights granted to corporations do not unduly influence legislative processes over individual rights and welfare.

Proposed Solutions to Undue Influence:

  1. Ban Corporate Personhood
    I responded to another proposal expanding upon the reasoning behind banning corporate personhood here ~ Call a Convention of the States to Limit the Scope, Power, and Jurisdiction of the Federal Government.

  2. Legislative Acts to Check Corporate Power against Constitutional Law. I attempt to address the problems endured by the people due to unsought and undue influence by corporate conglomerates against our common welfare in my proposal for the Separation of the Corporatocracy and the State, which I hope to expand upon and refine with the consideration of my compatriots who specialize in law, and other sectors, which can improve its effectiveness in combatting the most pressing problems of our era.

If we can codify these solutions to address the concerns you’ve raised by attempting to realign governmental functions with constitutional principles and public interest over private or foreign interests, that will go a long way into remediating a number of assaults on our constitutional republic by monied interests. However, each solution would require legislative changes, constitutional amendments in some cases, and broad political consensus which can be challenging to achieve given the entrenched interests involved. So, perhaps your educational approach paired with my solution-based approach may bear fruit in the minds of those who find the propositions compelling enough to pursue in earnest.

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Thanks for extremely detailed response! Most of these policies/proposals that you suggest are exactly what I was supporting.

Here are some policies I’ve created for more individualized approaches. As I read through the proposals that you have linked me too, I usually change my own proposals to advance their functionality, or I support the better worded, largely supported proposals.

There are small differences in the wordin of certain proposals that I differ on, and thus felt like I was required by my own views to create my own policies.

But, cooperation is the key to compromise, and the key to our Constitutional Republic. I love your listed out solutions, I wish there was a better system of voting for the forum.

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YES! All of this! I think that you and Ethan should be put forward as policy strategists at the very least.

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Thank you for compiling your list of observations.

We could point out some needs in addressing UI/UX considerations with Discourse, the third-party provider, potentially through feature requests. This would require collaboration with those who have experience with the Discourse framework in initially building and launching the Policies For the People open-source forum. If there’s a consensus on improvements between both the user base and those administering this platform, that would help move things along. I’m all for enhancing our collective efforts if that’s possible. Ideas that foster solution-focused cross-pollination are valuable, as they could strengthen our proposals. I believe in expanding on ideas rather than allowing topics to fragment into numerous, less effective echo chambers, so I’m curious to see what is possible in the meetings section of the forum.

Regarding your other points:

  • Some of your suggestions could be integrated into my separation proposal, so I’ll have to get back to you on those.

  • Others might stand alone as “single issue acts.” We could organize these within specific categories, showing their interconnectedness where applicable.

For organizing our thoughts, there’s a table feature available here that might be useful, even if the user interface isn’t ideal. Alternatively, we could shift to a cloud-based document platform for more collaborative proposal drafting. There’s also a polling feature we could use to gauge which versions of proposals are preferred by the community. So, we have a number of options to work with what we have in the meantime.

I suggest we make a brand new post in Meetings were we can post polls and such. I have yet to use the table feature yet, you’re right about the user interface.

You seem the most organized in the setup of your posts. So I wouldn’t mind my policies merging into the greater picture of yours, granted that we could compromise.

I’ll create a new Meetings thread and send it to both of you @ScottH .

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See amended post, below the author’s response.

I responded 4 hours ago, I’m guessing due to the topic, the responses require approval, so feel free to respond to them whenever they post.

But, this isn’t what this policy proposal is about, please move this to another thread, I don’t want to flag you as ‘off-topic’. I’d be happy to continue elsewhere, if you really need it.

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I have amended my response so that the relevance might be more apparent to those without a firm grounding in real history.

I must take stringent issue with the incorrect information, lest this hoax be perpetuated amongst otherwise cogent conversation.

And in fact, the subject of Hitler and his policies is incredibly relevant to this conversation.

Hitler passed two laws one not directly relevant, and the other precisely relevant to this discussion.

The first was a law making pornography illegal. That cuts straight to the heart of the communist demoralization and cultural subversion, which we also must combat today.

But most relevant to this topic, is that he also outlawed Usury. He kicked out the Jewish bankers, even holding a Rothschild for ransom.

His demonization, ignominious defeat, and the holocaust hoax now serve as a cautionary tale to any government or people, which would attempt to throw off the yoke of central bank subjugation, which is the primary fulcrum upon which the subversive cultural revolution, including the shaming and extermination of the goyim proceeds apace. Any discussion of changing the debt based financial system we currently suffer under, must be made in careful consideration that the full weight of international Jewry will come down on such a nation as might resist, just as the captured Soviet and the captured United States joined the captured British to put down that Christian leader, who would free his people from usurious slavery, and the descent into the perversions of Sodom and Gomorrah.

By perpetuating the narrative of our Khazarian Masters, we descend into their trap, and end up fighting a bogeyman who is but a figment and a device of the masters.

Hitler’s Holocaust?

According to the bound volumes of certificates, found in Soviet archives, 66,000 Jews passed away, mainly of typhus, in the Auschwitz camp, which was a labor camp, primarily concerned with the manufacturer of synthetic rubber. No one ever employed a gas chamber there for purposes, other than delousing.

The Jewish bolsheviks ethnically cleansed 30 million Russian Christians before they teamed up with the Jewish-captured United States to crush the national socialists in Germany, who had decided to kick out the Jewish bankers and their hyperinflated fiat currency, and their transgender cultural revolutions. Although there were only 3 million Jews in occupied German territory, Hitler still somehow managed to exterminate twice that number, according to the holocaust hoaxers, this despite Red Cross and UK signals intelligence, which contradict any extermination narrative. And of course no one talks about the 10 million Germans, who were ethnically cleansed by the advancing Jewish Bolshevik at the end of the war. General Patton understood this, and lamented that we had defeated the wrong enemy. Stop blaming Hitler for what is essentially a Jewish problem. And that problem, the Jewish problem, is the root cause of the debt based economy as it functions in the United States in 2024.

I hope the connection and the correction are now clear.

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A few more points of correction: failure to renew the charter of the first national bank, with a 20 year charter from 1791 to 1811, was the very cause of the war of 1812, following which America was forced to capitulate and accept the second national bank. Therefore, your description of a era of banking tyranny starts far earlier than 1832. It was the stalwart bravery of a President Jackson, which led, despite all of the faults and failings of the subsequent attempts at a replacement system, to a flowering of the economic life of the nation, until those foreign bankers once again impeded the noble progress of our nation, through the instigation of the Civil War. War and assassination have been the tools and levers applied to our nation in each case where we resisted the forces of the foreign national bankers. Take as evidence the manner in which all presidents who have resisted are shamed, to be represented on the currency with their very own face and name, that they might roll in their graves.

Furthermore, the choice of bullion, or bitcoin, or any other currency of finite supply, when properly adjusted to the expansion or contraction of the economy, is sufficient unto itself, and the idea that one might run out is absurd, only the failure of installing the proper mechanisms. Currency backed by a specie of finite supply is the only insurance against inflation.

for some reason my responses still are not approved. I’m not going to continue until this site approves them :frowning:

I agree on some points. The 2nd US bank was chartered due to financial mismanagement. Not capitulation, we did not lose in 1812.

Secondly, destablizing Jacksonian economics is what allowed foreign influence in US economics, no national management.

Finite supplies of resources encouraged expansion and exploitation of the resources the natives lived on. Finite supply at banking locations through mismanagement (malpracticed loans) caused several Panics.

Both Nazism and Bolshevism function as State Atheists. Both exterminated the disabled far more than ant religious group. Furthermore the destruction of organized religion was of utmost importants to these ideologies because of ‘state loyalty’.

Lets keep the nazi defense off my thread please.

We didn’t have to lose the war of 1812 to be thrown into a burden of debt via the war which made the acceptance of the 1815 charter unavoidable.

It is always the threat or exercise of war by the central bankers which weakens a nation and forces it to capitulate to usury.

Than dont say ‘capitulated’