So let me see if I understand just the first part of your proposal- You believe that because your handing them $10k that they won’t even attempt re-entry for 7 years…and also make sure they only “reapply through legal channels”? What is this “eliminates need for enforcement infrastructure”? A fancy way of saying “No need for a wall fellas. We can just TRUST them…” Your “Labor Market…” is also lacking in common sense. Employers do not just offer “better benefits” because of labor needs- that is completely dependent upon multiple issues that stress a business especially a small business. Who taught you this? We have gone through this and this is NOT what happens when you need workers…This is NOT common sense nor is it workable. You pulled these out of a fairytale- One which supports illegal behavior and is still unjust to the millions of Americans struggling to get through.
Really don't like having the system able to lock out an expenditure, as it is too easy for it to be abused.
I’m not sure what you mean by “lock out an expenditure.” Legally, illegals should be unable to get past mechanisms like e-verify. They just have to be enforced, and it’s not something that can be used against citizens. And it doesn’t need to be - The left has shown us that the government can hurt us regardless of any law, from debanking to depersoning to flooding the nation with illegals, all outside the system.
That said, I don’t like the government involved in my personal affairs - If I apply for a job, it’s my business.
On the other hand, we are no longer a moral people, so if the government doesn’t get involved too many of us will happily do the bidding of the highest bidder, clearly. That’s how we got in this mess. I’m happy to verify my citizenship to get these people out.
I still don’t get why we would pay a criminal to leave. You can’t make someone do something, but you can make them want to do it. Making illegal entry punishable by death will have most illegals leaving on their own, and they will be less inclined to return. Plus, it’s very economical!
There are 30 million.
Who are they? Where are they?
Oh, you don’t know? No one does? Well, then we have to Identify them. Now how do we do that when the 4th amendment says:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Well, maybe you think “That’s OK, we’re just going to search for the illegals!” So . . . how do you ask someone you suspect of being an illegal without violating their 4th amendment rights? Maybe you don’t care about government goons knocking on your door “just to make sure you’re a citizen”, but I do.
And I am in favor of deporting illegals.
Now imagine you’re the democrat leadership. You own the political machinery in all the blue cities and states. You run California and see the illegals as you’re soon to be voter base as soon as you can sneak past another amnesty bill like freaking Ronald Reagon did. You’re gonna throw sand in the machinery, lawfare and every delay tactic imaginable. You think government is ineffective when it wants to do something? Wait until you see it when it doesn’t.
So - we have two options:
- Hope and pray that in 4 short years we can thread the needle in enemy territory to somehow get out 10,000,000 plus illegals - spending hundreds of billions on lawsuits and enforcement and getting bogged down in the courts before finally losing.
or
- Pay the people who were invited by the democrat party (and establishment Republicans like Paul Ryan) to come here a relative pittance to leave.
You can either stand on “muh principles” like a useful idiot. Or win.
Because without this, or something better, in four years we will look back and be moaning again about why we were unsuccessful again, so that Republicans can run on it again and Democrats can run on Amnesty for most again.
The choice is yours.
Have you thought about making a separate minimum wage for non-American citizens?
If the federal minimum wage law were altered, so that a non-American is subject to a 50% higher minimum wage than American citizens, then American businesses would preferentially hire Americans, the Department of Labor would also enforce citizenship checks on businesses, and illegal immigrants would have less of an incentive to risk their lives coming here.
In fact, they would have an incentive to return to their home country.
Have you considered that?
I’ll even write the law:
“The federal minimum wage for non-American citizens shall be 50% higher than the federal minimum wage which applies to American citizens. The Department of Labor shall be tasked with enforcing the non-American minimum wage (NAMW) in American businesses.”
We’ll have to agree to disagree. I have complete faith that the team Trump is putting together will deport every illegal quickly, cheaply and without breaking any laws, as has been Trumps style. Just watch interviews from some of the people he’s taken on - I don’t get the impression they’ll need to search door to door. They seem to already know who they are looking for. I can’t imagine what they’ll do, but these are exciting times you have to admit! Anyway, nobody with common sense will support giving money to criminals - that’s what liberals do - but I appreciate the effort.
We don’t have to disagree for more than 4 years.
I’m quite sure that without rebranding, this proposal won’t happen. So in 4 years, we will get to see if 10 million are gone.
We could even bet on your “faith” if you want to lose some money 
Zogbonk has a well presented, and logical, presentation. I agree with him.
First off: I’m not against what you’re saying here. Bribing them to leave is a drop in the bucket compared to letting them stay.
This guy has a way to find most of them and bring private equity to heel in one step.
Lock out expenditures, another way to say having the ability to block the target from spending their money on specific expenditures, without necessarily freezing the account.
I fully agree that there are too many followers who comply with what is suggested. That is why I dislike the concept that it is acceptable for me to have to show papers, so the illegals can be found. As has been shown by the history of the Patriot Act, some things continue ad infinatum.
They are ILLEGALS & deserve NOTHING! It will cost millions to deport them, but in the long run it will be cheaper than giving them benefits that they do not deserve.
Look at post for California case study