Term limits for Senators and Representatives

What you describe is unconstitutional. Here’s what i mean by the People:

That has not been true since 1896 when 14th amendment was past. You were made a U…S. Corporate citizen. We now have a corporation
And under “public policy” not the constitution. The board of directors (Congress) can change public policy any time they wish. I hope Trump returns us the our covered over republic.

The bureaucrats should be named, and made very clear to the people who they are, what they do, and yes, term limits instated for them as well.

Lastly, I believe that the social credit score system that has been implemented in some countries should be applied to everyone working in government, no acceptions but the President and VP. If any elected officials or bureaucrats are caught doing something illegal, wrong, etc…, then they will be removed and all their video evidence against them will be applied. And their social credit score will impact them, and only them. The people working under the umbrella of local, state, and Federal, are servants. Not Lords.

Interesting ideas @NobleComanche. How ‘bout a published org chart of the entire government so we can see all the layers and who answers to who and who is in what department ?

i agree with your first paragraph. but NOT the secolnd. you bring in social credit score—and you will soon see “mission creep” then WE ALL will have social credit scores!!! Never wish anything on another you would not want for yourself.

there are better ways. Make lobbying illegal with heavy fines and prison. Only the states and the individual PEOPLE—not corporation—can lobby.

Two terms in any office that has terms should be sufficient, but that would limit representatives to 4 years of service. That is too short given the costs to run and the people’s choice who elect them, IMO.

I think that the term for House members should be 3 years with a 2 term limit making a total of 6 years consecutive service. But, that might deprive an electorate of the services of a particularly good and effective representative; therefore why not allow one who has served the limit to run again but only after having sat out for as long as he was in office? Under such circumstances a representative could serve for 3 years, be elected to another 3 years then have to sit out for 6 years before running again, when, if elected, he could serve another 2 terms thus serving a total of 12 years.

The same would work for the senate. Set a 2 term limit (with current 6 year terms unchanged) allowing no senator to serve for more than 12 consecutive years but allowing one to sit out for 12 when he could stand for election again with the possibility of serving another 12 years or a lifetime cap of 24 years. Again, this is offered to protect the interests of the electorate.

For the Senate, I’d like to see the constitution revert to the case before 1913 when states’ legislatures appointed their senators with the same stipulations of 2 terms, out, return only after sitting out for as long as one served, etc. We have seen senators ‘carpetbag’ to states where the popular vote will elect them when the state legislature might not have. RFK and h. clinton come to mind. I say this because I believe that pure democracy is worse than other forms of governing. When there is no check on direct democracy, government devolves quickly into a tyranny of the majority. That is the very reason that the founders avoided it and put checks and balances on it.

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Here’s a proposal for federal employment:
Set an overall limit of 25 years in all civil service jobs. Make retirement mandatory after having served 25 years or upon reaching 70 years of age, whichever comes first. Period. Full Stop.

Set a limit of 10 years tenure on supervisory positions. Put a 5 year limit on all head-of-agency positions. I’m an octogenarian and propose that no one serve in a civil service position past the age of 70.

I would also like to see a prohibition against private sector service within any industry that an agency employee regulated. For example, if an employee of the FDA leaves government voluntarily or through forced retirement, that individual could not work for any company regulated by the FDA whether or not the individual was a policy maker.

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The Dingells of Detroit are a case in point. The original served over 50 years in the HoR then the seat was filled by family members.

IMO, we have too many examples of familial succession. I could support a position denying the right to hold office from anyone whose ancestor as recent as great grandfather served. That would, putatively, put a 75 year gap in any familial accession to power. We should avoid any and everything smacking of hereditary rights to power.

Interesting!

The people go along with such. It rests with an informed electorate!!!

I know many people well past 70 years who are very wise and consistently teach others. People mature at different ages. To put age restrictions is not very wise.

However I totally agree with your second paragraph.

Career politicians need no path, it needs to stop entirely!

And no more retirement packages or insurance once they are out of office!

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We must have term limits. Too much power is held by too few.

House of Representatives should be able to serve 3- 5yr terms and MUST have an age cap to have to resign by 70th birthday to be replaced by newly elected representative

Senate should be able to serve 3- 6yr terms and MUST have an age cap to have to resign by 70th birthday to be replaced by newly elected Senator elections to the Senate are staggered over even years so that only about 1/3 of the Senate is up for re-election during any election.

Power is with the people! I know term limits “sound” good. but that is all. with term limits you have “lame duck YEARS! can you imagine a whole gang of lame ducks ALL AT ONCE???
havent you seen the havoc just ONE is capable of? lets make the ballot box term limits!!!
SOON we will have no cheating blockchain voting. let us wait for it.

Presidential age cap
—Presidential candidate must be 65yrs or younger at time of Presidential election
—President cannot run for second term if they are over 65yrs in the year of their second election
—No sitting president can be older than 69yrs

House of Representatives should be able to serve 3- 5yr terms, MUST have an age cap, so they have to resign by 70th birthday to be replaced by newly elected representative
Senate should be able to serve 3- 6yr terms MUST have an age cap, so that they have to resign by 70th birthday to be replaced by newly elected Senator elections to the Senate are staggered over even years so that only about 1/3 of the Senate is up for re-election during any election.

8 Federal Justices elected by the people serve a single 18yr term
1 Federal Cheif justice elected by president can serve 2- 8yr terms
---- All judges MUST resign by 73rd birthday to be replaced by newly elected Justice(s)

This is very authoritarian.

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