Closed Military Bases for Veterans

Over the years the US government has thrown billions of dollars at veterans issues in an attempt to solve the multiple problems facing veterans. They fund the Veterans’ Administration to the tune of well over $350 billion, successfully enriching VA workers while failing to solve any problems. Their answer to that failure is to hire more VA employees and add yet more layers of personnel between veterans and providers. They offer mental health provided by professions with the highest incidence of mental illness issues, most of whom have never experienced anything remotely like the Hell on Earth that veterans are forced to endure. These are the solutions of academics with no real world experience.

If you want to solve veterans’ issues, you need to stop throwing money at other people and start talking to veterans about what they need. Talking to so-called “experts” who are nothing of the sort when it comes to what veterans must endure is NOT one of those things. Veterans need the right to choose their own treatments, their own providers, and their own type of mental and psychological providers. Veterans deserve the right to make their own decisions about their health and welfare, without government control.

To that end, I believe the best step toward solving these issues is to take the closed military bases in our inventory and any bases slated for future closure and turn them over to veterans to be turned in to veteran communities. Fix the buildings or provide the materials to do so; provide the hospitals and clinics with necessary equipment to take care of community healthcare, and allow the veterans to decide who will run and staff that hospital. And let them choose from among their own number, those who will lead those communities as mayors and councils, and those who will liaise with the government on the continuing needs of those communities.

That would solve the problem of homelessness, and the base facilities would give veterans a place to practice whatever skills they have or choose to learn. The shops are there for those who would like to run them, workshops for others to make things to sell to or at the shops, open fields for those who wish to farm or raise animals, and some bases actually have self-sufficient power plants as well. Some bases also have full-scale hotels which can be used either for drawing tourism into the local area, or for military personnel and veterans who are looking for a little time away from everything.

Many veterans never use their educational benefits. Such a community would give them the opportunity to do so, setting up educational centers for those who choose solitary study, or bringing in special instructors or classes to teach those who choose how to run the various facilities of which the base is comprised, including apprenticeship programs for any who are interested in learning craftsmanship skills. Compared to the alternatives that have been offered, this would be a very cost-effective method to help veterans gain the skills they need (or exercise the skills they have) while providing them with a support network of individuals who have shared experiences. I would honestly be looking forward to “story and one-upmanship” night at the club.

The idea is not to close the veterans off from the civilian population. That’s generally not a good idea; we need that interaction and so do they. Besides, the community would also need a market to take advantage of the things that are crafted and grown there. It would, however, provide veterans the opportunity to “shut the doors” and take care of their own when the need arises.

This would be an ideal situation to also create a pool of individuals who are trained to act. The best thing any city can have is a nearby community of veterans who will instantly appear and actually accomplish things when a disaster strikes, who know how to lead and how to take orders, and who have been trained to instinctively throw themselves between danger and those who face it. Even disabled veterans have a lot to offer in such situations. But imagine multiple former military bases with self sufficient veterans who can, with the proper incentives and planning, become the basis for a nationwide disaster relief force that can respond within hours to problems in their regions, instead of waiting for a political entity like FEMA to decide who “deserves” aid.

Each community will take time to build. Facilities will need to be repaired to ensure they are in good working order, and the time spent repairing them would also be an excellent opportunity for those veterans who choose to learn how those repairs are made. It will take time for the base to reach the point of self-sustainment, but it can be done, and it can be done in a cost effective manner if the path to get there includes a little left seat/right seat training. There are so many companies out there that are veteran friendly; how many do you suppose would be willing to throw some expertise and money at actually helping to establish such a community?

Such communities can be maintained by government funds in cases where those community members are willing to be on call volunteers to help with national emergencies. Those communities who choose to become independent will eventually have to be funded by collecting from each person in the community; a form of “tax” designed to maintain the infrastructure. Barracks buildings can be converted to apartments, although every community should have at least one building set aside for veterans in need of “emergency” shelter. Mess facilities can be used as community dining halls, or converted to restaurants. A community dining hall is something else that would need to be funded, although much of the food could be locally grown. Sometimes it’s nice to have someone else feed you, particularly after a long day of hard work.

We should not have to fight the federal government to get the benefits that were promised to us. Veterans and soldiers commit suicide because they no longer have the strength to face that battle. That is not acceptable. I honestly told my Senator in a letter that if I had to go to battle with the federal government one more time to force them to give me the benefits they promised me, then I was going to go to Mexico, renounce my citizenship, and come back as an illegal alien because then I wouldn’t have to PROVE that I deserved the benefits I was promised. He wrote me back a letter that I’m sure was a canned response, because he wanted to know what he could do to help me. I responded that I was pretty sure I could get to Mexico on my own, but if my car broke down on the way I might call and ask to borrow his limo.

I know that veterans have been treated even more disgracefully in the past, and the many veterans groups out there deserve a lot of credit for making things better. But, as happens after every war that leaves us with a plethora of veterans who are wounded in both mind and body, it is time for us to make our voices heard. Very few groups can match the collective roar of the veterans. These problems are not being solved by others; so now it’s time to give us our turn.

This proposal has been vetted by multiple veterans on different social media platforms and thus far the response from them has been entirely positive. So now the question to the country is, do you really want to help them by giving them what they believe they need, or are you only interested in giving them what you want them to have?

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How are we enriching VA workers?

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I don’t think anyone ever got rich working for the VA. At our VA hospital, they can’t keep the doctors because they can’t pay competitive wages. On the whole I think this is a good idea, but VA employees don’t make a lot of money.

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Place an American Legion at each base for community support. This is a fabulous idea. For some vetetans, a base is more home than a neighborhood. There is just a different sense of family and comradery. I miss living on base.

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I got on here to suggest something along similar lines. We also have ‘inactive’ bases, as I understand it these have skeleton crew to due basic upkeep and keep power and water on etc. Why can’t these bases be staffed with vets and provide a home for homeless vets, either as a transition to other programs or jobs or as a permeant place to love. I also think several the “closed” bases should be designated communities for Special resources such as addictions and PTSD. Let our great men and women help each other= staff and fill these communities with vets.

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I agree with removing the government from veterans’ lives as much as possible, except for the bureaucracy necessary to disburse disability and healthcare benefits. For example, each veteran should be handed the equivalent of a private insurance card like Blue Cross Blue Shield.

Veterans Service Organizations are already amazing at providing social support and we don’t need veteran-led gated communities or bases. On the contrary, we need them to better integrate into the general population. The only way that would happen is if we appropriately compensate them for their service and allow them free access to civilian healthcare.

I also came here to suggest this. As the program expands, it would be Taylor made to act as a “halfway house” for veterans returning from combat or transitioning to civilian life. I have a friend whose son just retired from the Marines after 24 years, he was never in active combat but is struggling to return to civilian society.

I have seen mention of “tent cities” or something similar. I feel this would be just more of the same inadequate, and frankly, disrespectful treatment of our service members.

All the infrastructure already exists. Let’s use it for something positive.

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I suspect that the real grift at the VA isn’t going to the frontline support staff but is instead tied to insider deals with suppliers of X-ray and CAT scan machines, pharmaceuticals, hospital beds, other essential equipment, and even the hospital real estate itself.

Given that the VA’s healthcare budget is approximately $8 billion and serves around 18.6 million veterans, this averages out to just $430 per veteran annually. This raises a critical question: why not create a group health program that would allow veterans to access private healthcare networks? Such a program would empower veterans to seek the best PTSD treatments, top prosthetics care, and highly skilled physical therapy staff, ensuring they receive the highest quality care tailored to their individual needs.

Why try to fix a broken system when there’s already a proven solution that works—a healthcare network used by the rest of the country? Transitioning to this model could provide veterans with better, faster, and more flexible care, all while eliminating the inefficiencies and bottlenecks of the current system.

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Great idea! My brother-in-law served in Vietnam in the mid 60’s, became a fireman, and worked 40 years before falling victom to cancer. When my wife tried to access his VA benefits they could find no record of his service! He died before getting any help.

You have difined the objective (Vets for Vets?) and outlined a way get there. Like any mission it’ll need a strategy, a plan of attack, the logistics to support it, and the troops to fight the battles.

So where do we start General?

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i think we need eyes/ears of some people working such things… or knows who? General Flynn perhaps? or even getting the idea out to broader audience …

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The 501c19 structure supports organized Combat Era Service Veterans to create Local Posts. These may include Posts at closed bases or anywhere else in the county. S2S Veterans Mission is one such non profit organization fuctioning to enable local trades training from resources and available talent.

My understanding of current beurocracy is,
Federal military bases once closed may possibly transfer from DOD through DLA to State GSA. Those (approved) Veterans 501c19 organizations may request access as Reutilization Transfer Donation of real estate through this (RTD) program. Its fee based but rights are then granted use of land, property buildings and equipment. Veterans seeking this option first need to organize in numbers as that supports federal recognition. Application of dormant military bases then formally goes though the tedious procesing.

RTD may support new site development without any mortgages, but must be managed with GSA oversite to support NPO Veterans needs exclusively.

This is a great idea. I would also add that the veteran community at the base could also develop into a hub for exchanging with the surrounding community with different businesses springing up within the previously closed base. This would be a big win-win for the veterans as well as the surrounding community.

I do whole heatedly agree that the veterans have so much ability and so much to offer. I am sure this will give them some real purpose off the battlefield.

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The average salary of a United States Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) employee was $68,283 in 2020(https://openpayrolls.com/federal/united-states-department-of-veterans-affairs/2020). In 2023, the average salary increased to $76,425

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