RIGHT TO MATERNAL/FETAL HEALTHCARE & EDUCATION to stabilize the abortion issue

I think the car could be expanded. By adding responsibility to the fathers. This would also solve many of these issues. We can now do DNA tests and prove who is the father. These fathers should be paying child support through out the pregnancy as well. We have the ability and proven ways to prove the father. Many go the route of abortion and giving up children because the fathers don’t assist financially.

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I agree with Roamer’s stance. Its a matter for the states. Do not bring this issue back to the federal bureaucracy and their ever-expanding reach. I agree with many of the provisions, especially education in high school, but these provisions should be instituted closer to home, aka the states. Trump’s position is correct.

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Outstandingly well-considered and detailed. Great job! I agree, though, that these matters need to stay under State jurisdiction, per Trump’s policy, Too much federal government overreach has been (and still is) a huge problem. It takes power away from the people.

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Leading causes of death after miscarriage are cardiovascular disease, cancer, and suicide quit using our losses for your political agenda I live in a red state with an abortion ban I miscarried end of September and had no issues getting the treatment I REQUESTED was not needed majority of women who miscarry do it NATURALLY at home. D&C is not needed in the majority of cases.

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Response to Joe:

Thanks for the feedback. I have a lot of thoughts on the Family Court/child support system, too. I wish we would drastically simplify it. I disagree with charging child support during the pregnancy, for many reasons. It would have unintended consequences. Murder is the top cause of death for pregnant woman; therefore women who were already dealing with a coercive, economically abusive, perhaps pro-abortion father would be at increased risk of retaliatory aggression from him. In addition, going thru the system causes a lot of undue toxic stress on women, something that could pass on to her unborn child and harm the child’s development. Health insurance and potential state disability pay already covers her pregnancy related expenses. And most mothers don’t even get child support because it’s a BS process. So (while I have many other detailed thoughts on this) I would basically suggest, overall simplification of the process and focusing on getting minimal child support for more mothers in general. I do think that adding in modern DNA test technology can help identify absent/unknown fathers, if necessary. The child support related issue would be a worthy conversation on its own.

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Most states, even conservative states, already permit exceptions such as life-threatening, rape or incest. I don’t support abortifacient birth control at all. And I believe that abortion, outside of life-threatening conditions, is akin to murder and should be criminalized. Women should go to jail for abortion, so I don’t support this. I’m sorry.

Ultimately, this is a state’s issue, and the people of each state will decide what is appropriate. What is extreme in California will not be extreme in Alabama, and visa versa. The people of that state should decide.

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Response to Amanda:

No one is using YOUR loss for any agenda; you received the care you needed. It’s the women who died or who were injured from malpractice/treatment delays, or had otherwise had a pregnancy crisis NOT covered by any exceptions, that the pro-abortion movement is exploiting for their agenda.

Again I’m sorry for your loss, but also, your loss is no excuse to make abrasive assertions about a proposal that you clearly haven’t read completely and it’s no excuse for you to continue to pretend like these harmed women don’t exist.

My links/detailed google doc summaries are all there in my proposal for you to read, as evidence.

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This is a great proposal; suggestions, there are statements of prior research- citation would be great so that can be read also for better understanding of this issue.
This is very controversial- fathers have to go to every appointment and learn everything that women are supposed to in this. Every child has a dna test on every male claiming not to be the father and stricter accountability laws for any person of a child. This does not solely rest on the mother and doctors, men need to be held to account as I have heard, I thought about it, no one is there for me, then the actions of others. The main one is the man leaves the woman and the woman doesnt want the child because of this.
As a mother of a severely disabled child, 15q11.2 microdeletion including the MAGEL2 gene, I have had to “fight” for my ex to be apart of the life of the son he has claimed, all the while blaming me. I have done the extra trainings, he has not, I have done all the doctors and research, he has not, and I have done every school meeting and therapy he has not. He was not held to physical account, only monetary which he is more than $30,000 behind, and the states I have lived in are so far behind with assistance that better pay and/ or incentives need to be made and if corporations are not going to do it, the federal government needs to impose laws and fines (that is the only thing that gets accross to most people, money) against them and the father. Thank you for listening and hopefully these are helpful.

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Response to Matt:

Thanks for your feedback. But also, you have made multiple erroneous statements.

Quick factcheck:

  • The majority of the population in pro-life states do NOT have an exception for rape/incest (or for fatal abnormalities).*
  • FYI, this bill has nothing to do with “birth control” of any kind.
  • This proposal does NOT prevent states from criminalizing providers for performing illegal abortions.
  • FYI- I don’t think any of the pro-life states criminalize women for illegal abortions that they don’t perform themselves. There are a lot of reasons why that would be a huge mistake.#
  • Abortion is NOT a “states only issue.” That’s a huge misconception that I explained in my proposal and through-out my responses to other commenters. Besides, the advent of sanctuary states for late term abortion, and mail-order abortion pills, is the real attack on “states-rights.”
  • Genocide and post-birth infanticide is “extreme” in every state, especially against viable babies. The majority of Americans support the small pro-life protections included in this proposal. Also, the majority of Americans, including the majority of pro-lifers, also support the allowance of exceptions for rape and fatal abnormalities.

*This was my previous detailed response to another commenter (he was quite rude so forgive my strong response). Anyway, in this response, I showed that my proposal addresses situations/problems that the current states-only approach does NOT address effectively:
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#In this other response, I explained in detail why prosecuting women for abortions they did not perform would be a huge mistake and would only sabotage the pro-life cause:

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Response to Veronica:

Thanks for your feedback.

There are three links at the end of my proposal that will take you to my google docs containing all my links and personal research findings.

Yes abortion coercion is a monster. I’m so sick of men and society using the trope “it was YOUR choice to be a mom!” as an excuse to not offer the support we need. I also agree that it simply so unfair to not care about how economically devastating and stressful, at times terrifying, to force all the worry and responsibility of the full time care of a moderate or severely disabled growing person, onto one mom.

While we can’t force a father to be there when he needs to, my proposal does call for more support for caregivers and the disabled. For example, it says: “Commit to policies and regulations to help protect disabled and seniors from abuse and neglect. Fund and authorize increases in caregiver and nursing staff to patient/resident ratios in group homes, nursing homes and long term care facilities. Assign a social worker to check in with disabled and senior patients/residents and ensure they are connected with their best available options and resources. Allow Medi-Care to fund in-home caregiving in cases in which the patient qualified for nursing or long-term care.”

In addition, my final section, entitled " Right to Education and Coaching on Management of Pregnancy and Parenting" is meant to educate BOTH men and women about such relevant topics like fetal/child development, what abortion procedures are like, parenting skills/perspectives; harms of absent fatherhood and about various disabilities (among other topics). I also added an idea of a coparenting coach. These educational ideas are meant to increase awareness about the value of life and parental involvement.

I also have a separate proposal which would allow certain caregivers to take 8 hours off per week unpaid from their regular full time jobs. This is for caregivers who still must keep their full time job but might appreciate having the small relief of a few extra hours off.

I skimmed it. “Every woman has a right to her own body.” Is this really true? How about the female inside her body, shouldn’t it be said as: “The strongest woman has a right to her own body,” meaning she can kill a girl baby God put in the womb. The purpose of sex is not pleasure but to “be fruitful and multiply,” inside a marriage. Now women use it as a form of righteous killing, but the consequences of God, in His time, will show the mother her errors. And if one kills the baby inside the womb, why isn’t the mother dying? RIGHT it isn’t her body; but the body of a separate individual. Also remember the DNA is different, and even after killing the baby, his/her DNA remains, in the mother. Why? In the future when the mother is ill or injured, those cells of the baby go to the injured/ill/diseased quickly goes there try and heal her. Ever ask why the woman, after an abortion, and the date of delivery has a “happeninng” either emotional or physical? Why she will always wonder what happened-maybe not now-“what if…” Maybe that infant was to “sace” her somehow in the future? Only God knows, but there will be consequences.

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Response to Shirley:

Thanks for reviewing my policy. Just to be clear, nowhere in my proposal does it say “every woman has a right to her own body.” I assume you are engaging in a philosophical argument regarding what pro-choice people say, which is fine, as long as people remain aware that this proposal has nothing to do with elective abortion for voluntary, healthy pregnancies.

I read your proposal and much of it has merit. But I can’t sanction some of the exceptions. Thanks for your work on this, but I can’t support taking the life of a viable baby regardless of the circumstances that caused its creation by God.

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If a women wants to be loose about her sexual activites she should have her tubes tied and that would reduce the issue of abortion and the death of innocent babies.
Mentally deminished should be sterilzed as a public consideration.

No. This proposal does NOT prevent states from imposing reasonable penalties and punishments against those who violate the state’s abortion law.

It does help ensure the punishment fits the crime and that we avoid feeding Democrat narratives.

Response to Stephen:

It would be great if federal legislators took this proposal and then consulted with their constituents and available data and performed their own polls to see how best to shape such legislation. Everyone should remember that the final draft of these ideas is in the hands of the legislators, not us.

FYI- According to polls, the majority of Americans support exceptions such as rape, fatal abnormality and the mother’s life. In fact, the majority of PRO-LIFE people support those exceptions.

Also, the majority of Americans support restrictions against late term elective abortion as well as some pre-abortion counseling.

Both pro-choice and pro-life people have enthusiastically voted on this proposal. Even pro-lifers who said they couldn’t vote on it (because they disagree with parts of it) have still expressed enthusiasm for it and would likely be pleased if Trump supported something like this, even if they couldn’t muster to vote on it themselves.

The only thing on here which would be mainly favored by conservatives, but not by the majority of Americans, would be the call that abortion pills can only be dispensed in person. According to polls, the majority of Americans support the idea of being able to “mail-order” abortion pills. However, I strongly believe that the allowance of “mail-order” abortion pills is against BOTH women’s interests AND against state’s rights’ interests. It not only adds much more risk of both physical complications and psychological harm (and most people are unaware about how risky unsupervised usage of abortion pills is), it undermines state anti-abortion laws, because mail-order pills are the reason why thousands of women in pro-life states have gotten their abortions anyway.

Besides, I assume that since the voters in the red areas who voted in their GOP legislators would be conservative enough to support that provision anyway. GOP legislators don’t need the support of voters from blue districts; they need the support from voters in THEIR districts.

An existing law, the Comstalk Act, actually already forbids the mailing of abortion pills; however Biden chose not to enforce it. Even the abortion industry has admitted, that Trump would not even need congressional approval to forbid the mailing of abortion pills; he just has to enforce/support the Comstalk Act.

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Americans should not even should pay a dime for any abortions and that is Trump’s policies. If a person wants to get an abortion let them pay cash for it, this will stop abortions, our tax dollars shouldn’t be paying to murder innocent babies.

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This proposal does NOT call for funding for elective abortion.

It says:

" - Require Medicaid and medical insurance companies to cover the cost of legal, medically-indicated abortion/miscarriage care services that meet a federal medical exception;
-Guarantee this narrow scope for funding and that NO COLLECTIVE FUNDS ARE USED FOR AN ELECTIVE procedure;

I completely agree. I want abortion to be unthinkable and for churches and other humanitarian agencies to help women make better choices.

No state or government should be able to be involved with private persons’ freedom, abortion is the murder of an unborn child, no ifs, ands, or buts. But we have free choice from God to do whatever we want, but there will be consequences for not doing what He says:

But the bigger issue is adoption. The government is involved with everything, and abortion is terrible. We need to have adoption people and families that are wanting children to connect with these parents and mothers who are not wanting their children and make a swap. If we would work this out, it wouldn’t be a problem in the future.

Check out my proposal here: