Protect White Collar Jobs From Chinese Takeover - End Sold By China on Amazon, Temu, Shein

Hi thanks for engaging on this!

I totally get where you’re coming from but I think that perspective overlooks the implications to the current US economy.

I urge you to look at the comment above you where another poster did a great job of highlighting how much of the US economy is at risk of being displaced by the “Sold by China” issue, it’s become much broader than manufacturing now.

The unfortunate reality is that after the US manufacturing displacement the US economy was built on top of Chinese manufacturing… a majority of US companies were built on Chinese products many not by choice but because they had to to remain competitive… as you said, no one ever technically forced US manufacturers to close down, they went out of business because they couldn’t compete with cheap Chinese labor, material costs and Chinese government subsidies…. Our manufacturing market got sold out to China by our leaders

That’s the point in one of my prior replies… if China is allowed to continue selling directly to US consumers then US manufacturing will remain uncompetitive for those products… it’s a direct challenge to US manufacturing startups and the idea of a manufacturing revival

These marketplaces even often obscure the fact that the products and sellers are from China so unfortunately most people will continue to buy the $15 Chinese made lamp sold directly by China on Amazon over the $25 dollar one made in America… so no one in their right mind will even try to start manufacturing lamps in the US as long as China is allowed to sell those to us.

The right answer is to ban Chinese access to our retail markets immediately to protect the existing economy and then, as Trump has proposed, start creating incentives that make US manufacturing attractive again so that we can safely shift back to a made in America Economy without wrecking havoc on existing US businesses

China took manufacturing a long time ago, this is their effort to take the rest of our economy. I hope this resonates with you and that you will vote for this proposal to bring awareness to this issue.

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Its absolutely up lifting hearing these discussions take place. Slowly, if the American people work together to make change like this, we can realize the original American dream. The people have more power than the government when we stand united. Let us remind the world of what it actually means to be american. Let us practice our god given freedom through the means of open forum discussions without limitations on speech. May god bless you all.

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Hi just wanted to follow up to see if you checked out the De Minimis proposal

My entire political ideology is driven by “what’s the Constitution say?”

There are lots of proposals on this site that I might support as a state-level effort but are completely and obviously federally unconstitutional. Yours is obviously a federal matter, but I’m curious about the enumerated powers you’d use to implement this.

The Trump administration in 2018 dealt a major blow to China when he stopped subsidizing shipments from there to here, though we have to pay an $8 million extortion for the privilege to the Universal Postal Union. So now the CCP is subsidizing the cheap shipping and continuing to put American manufacturers and sellers out of business.

Trump’s pro-America stance on trade seems in-line with your proposal and would likely rely on tariffs to accomplish the goal (which are clearly constitutional) rather than banning apps and foreign sellers. Under what provision of the Constitution would the federal government tell Amazon it can’t host sellers from China? Wouldn’t that put Amazon at a business disadvantage to Temu?

Also, from a technical perspective, VPNs make it possible for me to select which country I appear to be accessing the internet from. It would be very simple to get around any US restriction by simply changing my VPN to some other country, with a shipping address in the US.

This is one of many proposals I appreciate but just can’t see how it would work IRL.

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TT is not a Chinese market place. Many small family owned American businesses advertise on that platform. I feel you may be making assumptions based on hearsay without actually utilizing the platform. TT is privately owned by a man from Singapore. One of the reasons our government is making a big stink about it is because they can’t make money off of it like they can Facebook and all the other social media sites. Plus they can’t censor and control what we see like they do with our news stations in this country.
Now TEMU on the other hand is a Chinese market place and should be shut down because they do rip people off left and right.
Furthermore, banning social media platforms is infringing on my right to choose.

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Hi thanks for engaging on this proposal. The write-up is to some extent oversimplified for public understanding. Apologies if there wasn’t sufficient nuance but to clarify the intent of the proposal, it is not to ban tiktok but to prevent Chinese sellers from selling direct to US consumers on TikTok shop. In the same way that the intent is to prevent Chinese sellers from selling direct on Amazon.

TikTok shop for American businesses would and should still be allowed… the issue is the business displacement caused by Chinese companies cutting out American businesses in the retail space.

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Hi Roamer these is a very thoughtful perspective and I want to give it an equally thoughtful response. I’ll get back to you when I get to a computer bit to touch on one thing quickly. The intent is to prevent ALL Chinese sellers from having direct access to the US consumer which includes Temu.

This would be handled primarily by regulating the marketplaces themselves, many other regulations are already being enforced in this way

Maybe instead of banning Chinese products they should be screened and verified as a safe agent to buy from.
I feel that the governments has brainwashed all of us into hating and not trusting people from other countries meanwhile they are just people like you and me trying to make a living to survive and support their families. I’m not saying they are trustworthy but like I stated above our country should have a way to verify and certify that this group or company is a safe agent to purchase from before they are allowed to advertise on any platform, TT, Facebook, Amazon etc. Maybe that’s the solution. Because there are many scammers out there. Get them screened first.

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So do you disagree that the economic displacement is an issue? Is the proposal not clear enough?

Did you understand the distinction I made between “made in China” and “sold by China”?

Appreciate your feedback on how I can make this proposal easier to understand!

Hello just wanted to follow up. I updated the title. Does that clarify the issue a little?