I am in favor of all of your points here, but I would love eliminating the de minimis exemption to be a part of the action items. It’s tangible and actionable. Just curious why this isn’t included here?
I am an e-commerce owner. We sell products made in America. Shein, Temu, AliExpress, etc have cut into our business over the last couple of years. They also have a blank check to flood Google with their ads, which then drives up the cost for everyone else.
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100% agree…original iteration more broadly included all foreign companies but i summarized for understanding. This is a complex issue that needs to be explained succinctly to people who may not currently understand it.
China is the biggest current threat and their ability to extract value from the US economy at our expense is pretty universally understood at this point. Figured it was a good place to start
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I actually have a separate policy proposal running specifically for that.
I’m not sure exactly how this works but hoping if the proposal gets enough traction someone might reach out for more information.
Protecting US retail and e-commerce from foreign retailers could involve multiple steps including the elimination of the De Minimis Exemption and the renegotiation of International Postage Rates and Universal Postal Union Subsidies (if you don’t know about this It will will drive you crazy); among other strategies.
All that said, an out right ban on Chinese retailers directly accessing US consumers would resolve those and the much broader economic and consumer safety risk issues we’re seeing today. It’s not only justified but it’s the right thing to do if you care about American jobs and small businesses.
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Here’s a link!
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let me know if that worked
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Great write up! Hadn’t really thought about the implications of sites like Temu. Keep it up! Curious to know more and see where this goes.
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Thanks for reading, supporting and voting! Please share with anyone who this would resonate with
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if you understand the distinction please consider voting for this policy!
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does bumping threads work?
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I do love that you raised this concern.
In your opinion, if we brought back manufacturing stateside, do you think that would be a strong way to reduce buying outside of our country? Would it eliminate not only China made, but also, China sold?
I think another major topic that goes hand in hand with this is the human rights element and ethical worker welfare. Buying outside of the US, in most cases, contributes to very inhumane manufacturing practices.
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Hey! Thanks so much for voting and engaging on this.
In my opinion the “Sold by China” issue is now exaggerating the “Made in China” issue and is a new and serious challenge to the idea of a US manufacturing revival.
If Chinese manufacturing maintains its cost advantage then allowing a direct line to US consumers would mean they would continue selling at a significant discount to US manufacturers. This would prevent US manufacturing startups and challenge growth; China will continue to dominate the manufacturing market.
In order to make US manufacturing attractive again we need to limit Chinese access to the US market. Eliminating “Sold by China” is a necessary step.
If China is allowed to sell their own manufactured goods directly to US consumers, we have the same issue we have today in convincing people to buy American; Businesses already avoid buying American cause it makes them uncompetitive, they have to stay with China to compete. The option to buy American exists now but they don’t (unless it’s part of their value proposition) because they can’t afford to and stay in business.
Trump’s effort to make domestic products more attractive by increasing tariffs on Chinese imports does nothing to Chinese sellers exploiting the De Minimis rule which allows international shipments less than $800 to circumvent all duties and taxes. In fact, this will actually make “Sold by China” e-packets even MORE attractive than regular “Made in China” imported goods sold by US companies which would have the additional Tariffs on them.
I know this is complicated, it’s a tough issue to articulate and I’m not much of a politician. I hope this makes sense.
What do you think? Am I wrong about this?
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please make sure to share with anyone else who this would resonate with.
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@DegenDudes you seem like a master on this site. How can i get this issue more visibility?
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@DegenDudes please vote for the policy too! We are so close to top 20 in economy!
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This is very much needed. Foreign companies selling direct on Amazon destroys white collar jobs from Americans. High paying jobs in Marketing, Creative, Analysts, Finance, Accounting, Supply Chain, Forecasting, etc all get employed in the Foreign country for the Foreign company/brand/manufacturer. The foreign company manufactures the product, owns the brand, and then sells directly to the US consumer. The foreign company completely owns the entire process. No US company can compete with that. The proliferation of ecommerce makes it possible to completely cut out American companies entirely. Please address this critical issue that is reducing profits and collapsing the America brands.
When a foreign company is the manufacturer, brand, and seller they can declare (manipulate) the product cost for much less during importation to the US, paying less duties that US companies. The foreign company gets cheaper labor for the white collar jobs of selling direct into the US vs the US companies having to pay more for the US white collar labor. The Foreign company owns a larger vertical so they don’t need to make as much on just the selling side because they can also make it on the production side.
Tariffs often have only targeted products that protect US manufacturing. There are thousands of other products that are typically skipped in the tariffs because they are lower skill or not deemed as desirable US based manufacturing opportunity. For example textiles products. Manufacturing of this type of product will still be abroad. Tariffs alone would not solve the issue. Proposal #1 and #2 of the original post would be very effective to target the issue.
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Okay so as a consumer if it is not made in the United States I would prefer to buy it directly from China. I’m old enough to have worked in factories I remember when they left and they left because retailers could buy it cheaper from China and Japan at the time. Retailers like Walmart killed American jobs those factory jobs sucked but they paid well in fact they were the bridge between the working poor and the middle class one in five jobs they were the bridge between the working poor and the middle class. It was retailers who killed that. They were able to buy it cheaper from China. The difference between Walmart buying from China and me buying from China is I didn’t kill any jobs to do it. Now as far as buying on tiktok I wouldn’t put any of my banking information in there I would use one of the Visa gift cards but not any debit cards or credit cards that’s not smart.
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Well said! You said it better than I did. It’s clear you understand this issue. If you have any recommendations for how we can make this more palatable for the average person who isn’t so aware of this issue please let me know.
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