My Solutions to Save the US Economy and Pay the National Debt

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Okay, hear me out. This list is long and includes a lot of materials. I had to use Grok AI to help write this. Let me know what you think of this idea to pay off the US national debt and get the US back to a thriving nation and get Americans back to living the American dream.

Here is my idea:

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Plan to Save the U.S. Economy in Four Years.

The United States has a big problem: a national debt of $34 trillion as of September 2024. That’s a lot of money we owe! To fix this, we can use a mix of smart ideas to grow the economy, create jobs, and pay off the debt in four years instead of five. This plan combines three big strategies: printing money to boost businesses, creating new currencies and products, and growing the workforce, families, and industries like farming and robotics. We’ll also add new ideas, like building bullet trains, colonizing Mars, and funding artists. Below, I’ll explain everything in a simple way, with numbers to show how it works and solutions to make it happen.

Strategy 1: Printing Money to Grow Businesses

Let’s start by giving money to entrepreneurs and businesses to make the economy bigger. The U.S. economy is worth $25.5 trillion right now. We want it to grow to $37.6 trillion in four years, which means a 5% growth every year. To do this, we’ll print $8 trillion over four years ($2 trillion each year) and give it to businesses in tech, green energy, and infrastructure. This is like giving a big push to a swing—it makes things go faster!

How It Works:

  • Each $1 trillion we spend can grow the economy by $1.5 trillion (called a “multiplier effect”). So, $8 trillion could add $12 trillion to the economy by 2029.
  • This makes the debt $42 trillion ($34 trillion + $8 trillion), but if the economy grows to $37.6 trillion, the debt-to-GDP ratio (how much we owe compared to what we make) drops from 120% to 112%. That’s better!
  • Jobs: This plan could lower unemployment from 4.1% to 3.5%, creating millions of jobs.
  • Inflation: Printing money might make things cost more (like 5-7% inflation per year). To stop this, the Federal Reserve can raise interest rates a little.

Risks:

  • Prices could rise too much, making it hard for people to buy things.
  • If we give money to the wrong businesses, it won’t help the economy.
  • People who lend us money might get worried if the debt grows too fast.

Fixes:

  • Use agents, computers, and AI to pick the best businesses to fund.
  • Spend the money slowly ($2 trillion a year) to watch for price increases.
  • Create a team to make sure the money is used wisely.

Strategy 2: New Currencies and Global Products

Instead of just printing dollars, we can try new kinds of money and make products the world wants. This includes a deleveraging currency (to make debt easier to pay), letting states create their own money (like gold-backed or crypto), making cool products like AI and green tech, and mining asteroids in space for gold and metals.

Deleveraging Currency:

  • Print $4 trillion over four years ($1 trillion a year) to fund new projects. This grows the money supply (M2) by 19% (from $21 trillion to $25 trillion).
  • This could grow the economy by $6 trillion, making it $31.5 trillion by 2029.
  • Inflation might hit 5%, but it lowers the real debt (what it’s worth in today’s dollars) by 10%.
  • Debt Impact: Adds $4 trillion, making total debt $38 trillion. Debt-to-GDP stays at 121%.

State Currencies:

  • Let 10 states make their own money, like gold-backed coins or crypto worth $26 billion total.
  • If one state’s money (like Texas) gets popular, it could add $200 billion to the economy.
  • This doesn’t reduce federal debt but makes states richer, which helps the U.S. dollar stay strong.
  • Metric: 5% of people (16 million) use state money by 2029.

Global Products:

  • Spend $800 billion over four years ($200 billion a year) on AI, green tech, and biotech.
  • This could increase exports from $2.5 trillion to $3.5 trillion by 2029, adding $1.2 trillion to the economy.
  • Jobs: Creates 4 million jobs (1 job per $200,000 in exports).
  • Taxes: Earns $500 billion a year in taxes, helping pay interest on the debt ($952 billion by 2026).
  • Metric: U.S. gets 40% of the global AI market ($720 billion).
  • It’s important to stay away from Gloablist or allied Globalist organizations.

Asteroid Mining:

  • Spend $400 billion over four years ($100 billion a year) to mine asteroids for gold and metals.
  • By 2029, this could bring in $80 billion a year, adding $1 trillion by 2035.
  • Jobs: Creates 400,000 high-skill jobs.
  • Metric: Lowers debt-to-GDP to 115% if the economy grows to $30 trillion by 2035.

Alternate Market/Economy:

  • Create a new market with lower prices, fewer rules, and payments in deleveraging currency, state currencies, or crypto.
  • This helps small businesses grow and keeps prices low, strengthening local economies.
  • Metric: 10% of transactions (worth $2.5 trillion) use these currencies by 2029, boosting state GDPs by 5%.

Risks:

  • New currencies might confuse people or weaken the dollar.
  • Asteroid mining is expensive and might not work right away.
  • Other countries could beat us in making AI or green tech.

Fixes:

  • Make sure state currencies follow federal rules.
  • Work with private companies like SpaceX to make asteroid mining cheaper.
  • Offer tax breaks to U.S. companies to stay ahead.

Strategy 3: Growing Workers, Families, and Industries

To make the economy strong, we need more workers, bigger families, cheaper homes, more food, and better factories with robots. We’ll also fix cultural problems that make it hard for people to start families.

More Workers:

  • We need 57 million new workers by 2029 to grow the economy to $37.6 trillion (assuming productivity grows 2% a year, so each worker makes $175,000).
  • Solutions:
    • Let 1.5 million women immigrate each year (6 million total) and encourage them to marry U.S. citizens. This adds 3 million births by 2029 (fertility rate 2.5). Cost: $60 billion a year.
    • Offer childcare to get 4 million women working ($40 billion a year).
    • Raise the retirement age to 70, keeping 8 million older workers ($0 cost).
    • Use AI to make workers more productive, needing 30 million fewer workers ($400 billion).
  • Metric: Labor force grows from 164 million to 221 million (35% increase). Unemployment stays at 3.5%.

More Families:

  • The U.S. birth rate is 1.6 (too low). We want 2.1 by 2029, adding 600,000 births a year.
  • Solutions:
    • Give $5,000 per child in tax credits ($80 billion a year).
    • Pay $10,000 for each birth ($32 billion a year).
    • Offer 12 months of paid parental leave ($48 billion a year).
    • Subsidize childcare ($40 billion a year).
  • Metric: Fertility hits 2.0, adding 4 million kids by 2029, who’ll add $600 billion to the economy by 2055.

Cheaper Homes:

  • Homes cost $412,300—too much! We want $300,000 by 2029 (I would prefer $200,000 average).
  • Solutions:
    • Build 2 million homes a year ($160 billion a year).
    • Use 3D-printed homes to save 10% ($40 billion a year).
    • Lower mortgage rates to 3% ($400 billion a year).
    • Give $10,000 to first-time buyers ($40 billion a year).
  • Metric: Home prices drop 27%. Construction adds $320 billion a year to the economy.

More Farming:

  • We want to double food production to $1 trillion and exports to $300 billion by 2029.
  • Solutions:
    • Give $50,000 to 400,000 new farmers ($20 billion a year).
    • Use AI and drones for 10% more crops ($40 billion a year).
    • Turn 8 million acres into farmland ($8 billion a year).
    • Promote exports ($16 billion a year).
  • Metric: Farming jobs grow to 2.4 million (+20%). Exports double, adding $120 billion to GDP.

Robotic Factories:

  • Manufacturing is $2.5 trillion. We want $6 trillion by 2029.
  • Solutions:
    • Spend $80 billion a year on robotics R&D.
    • Give tax credits for robots ($40 billion a year).
    • Train 800,000 workers ($8 billion a year).
    • Work with companies like Tesla ($40 billion a year).
  • Metric: Robots triple to 1 million. Manufacturing adds $1.5 trillion to GDP.
    -Uphold humans over AI, automation, and Robots. Robots are for jobs people do not want or are too risky.

Fixing Culture:

  • Some trends (like too much social media) make it hard for people to marry and have kids. Men’s testosterone is down 1% a year since the 1980s.
  • Solutions:
    • Spend $1 billion a year on ads to promote families.
    • Fund dating events ($500 million a year).
    • Subsidize gyms to boost testosterone ($8 billion a year).
  • Metric: Fertility rises by 0.15 (to 1.75), adding 150,000 births a year. Testosterone up 10%.
    Country Partnerships with Asia:
  • Work with Japan, South Korea, and the Philippines to build factories. Spend $50 billion a year.
  • Metric: Adds $500 billion to manufacturing by 2029, creating 1 million jobs.

Bullet Trains in States:

  • Build bullet trains in big states (like California and Texas) with Japan’s help. Cost: $100 billion a year.
  • Metric: Connects 10 major cities, boosting state GDPs by 5% ($250 billion total).

External Revenue Service:

  • Create a new agency to collect taxes from overseas businesses. Cost: $5 billion a year.
  • Metric: Earns $100 billion a year in taxes, paying 1% of the debt.

Allies with Russia/China or BRICS:

  • Join BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) with limited roles to trade more. Cost: $10 billion a year.
  • Metric: Increases exports by 10% ($350 billion), adding $50 billion in taxes.
    -Be part of both Brics and the UN and maintain US sovereignty without becoming influenced by authoritarianism, utilitarianism, and totalitarianism.

Corrupt Politicians Pay Back:

  • Make corrupt officials repay stolen money. Could recover $10 billion a year.
  • Metric: Reduces debt by 0.02% annually.

Authentic Market Economy:

  • Build a market outside the stock market with fewer rules, using crypto and state currencies. Cost: $20 billion a year.
  • Metric: Grows local economies by 3% ($750 billion total), supporting the dollar.

Gold Standard:

  • Tie the dollar to gold again. Cost: $50 billion to buy gold reserves.
  • Metric: Stabilizes the dollar but limits printing money, reducing debt-to-GDP by 5%.

Colonize Mars:

  • Spend $200 billion a year to build Mars bases.
  • Metric: By 2035, adds $500 billion in new industries, creating 100,000 jobs.

Nuclear and Free Energy:

  • Spend $100 billion a year on nuclear and zero-point energy.
  • Metric: Cuts energy costs 20%, adding $1 trillion to GDP by 2029.

Space Exploration for Metals:

  • Fund space missions to find gold. Cost: $50 billion a year.
  • Metric: Brings $50 billion a year in metals by 2035.

Pay for Business Ideas:

  • Give $1,000 to anyone with a business idea and grants to the best ones. Cost: $10 billion a year.
  • Metric: Creates 100,000 new businesses, adding $200 billion to GDP.
    -A good idea is to also offer grants to more industries and not just best ones to help grow the economy in different ways.

Fund Artists and Creatives:

  • Give grants to artists, musicians, and even adult content creators. Cost: $5 billion a year.
  • Metric: Grows cultural exports to $100 billion, creating 50,000 jobs.

Degenerate Culture for Families:

  • Let people live freely (even “degenerates”) to boost creativity and families. Cost: $5 billion a year.
  • Metric: Raises fertility by 0.1 (100,000 births) and adds $50 billion in creative industries.
    -A free thinking society is capable of a lot more creative solutions and ideas.

Organic Food Economy:

  • Switch to organic food and clean water/air. Cost: $50 billion a year.
  • Metric: Improves health, raising productivity 5% ($1.3 trillion GDP).

Cheap Cars for Teens:

  • Build $10,000 cars for teens. Cost: $10 billion a year.
  • Metric: Gets 1 million teens working, adding $50 billion to GDP.

Underground Speed Rails:

  • Build underground trains in states. Cost: $100 billion a year.
  • Metric: Boosts state GDPs by 3% ($150 billion total).

Fund Psychologists for Kids:

  • Spend $10 billion a year to help kids grow up strong.
  • Metric: Improves mental health, raising productivity 2% ($500 billion GDP).

Make Work Fun:

  • Use psychologists to make jobs like video games. Cost: $5 billion a year.
  • Metric: Boosts productivity 3% ($750 billion GDP).

Tiny Homes for Young People:

  • Build cheap tiny homes for teens and young adults. Cost: $20 billion a year.
  • Metric: Houses 1 million young people, raising fertility by 0.1 (100,000 births).

Ethics Classes:

  • Teach kids ethics like in Japan. Cost: $5 billion a year.
  • Metric: Improves citizenship, reducing crime costs by $10 billion a year.

Easier Pregnancies:

  • Fund research to make childbirth less painful. Cost: $5 billion a year.
  • Metric: Raises fertility by 0.05 (50,000 births).

Orphan Academies:

  • Train orphans to be great workers. Cost: $5 billion a year.
  • Metric: Turns 100,000 orphans into workers, adding $15 billion to GDP.

Narcotics Economy:

  • Create safe drug facilities like in Portugal. Cost: $10 billion a year.
  • Metric: Helps 500,000 people get jobs, adding $25 billion to GDP.

Paying Off the Debt

The total cost of all these ideas is $1.5 trillion a year, adding $6 trillion to the debt by 2029 (total debt: $40 trillion). Here’s how to pay it off in four years:

Taxes:

  • Add a 10% VAT ($400 billion a year) and raise corporate taxes to 28% ($100 billion a year).
  • Metric: Earns $500 billion a year, paying $2 trillion in four years.

Sovereign Wealth Fund:

  • Invest $1.2 trillion from exports and farming taxes at 5% return. In four years, it grows to $1.5 trillion.
  • Metric: Pays $1.5 trillion of the debt.

Export and Farming Revenues:

  • Exports ($350 billion) and farming ($120 billion) earn $470 billion a year.
  • Metric: Pays $1.88 trillion in four years.

Inflation:

  • Keep inflation at 3% to lower the real debt by 10% ($4 trillion in today’s dollars).
  • Metric: Helps but needs other methods.

Corrupt Politicians:

  • Recover $10 billion a year from corruption.
  • Metric: Pays $40 billion in four years.

Total Paid: $2 trillion (taxes) + $1.5 trillion (fund) + $1.88 trillion (exports) + $40 billion (corruption) = $5.42 trillion. Inflation covers the rest, paying off the $6 trillion new debt. The original $34 trillion debt is stabilized at 100% of GDP ($40 trillion by 2029).

Metrics for Success

  • GDP: Grows from $25.5 trillion to $40 trillion by 2029 (5% annual growth).
  • Debt-to-GDP: Drops from 120% to 100%.
  • Jobs: Creates 20 million jobs (4M from products, 4M from workers, 2M from robotics, 1M from Asia, etc.).
  • Inflation: Stays at 2-3% with Fed control.
  • Fertility: Rises from 1.6 to 2.0, adding 4 million kids.
  • Homes: Median price falls to $300,000.
  • Farming: Output hits $1 trillion, exports $300 billion.
  • Manufacturing: Grows to $6 trillion.

Risks and Fixes

  • Inflation: Watch prices and stop printing if they rise above 3%.
  • Politics: Get both parties to agree by showing job growth.
  • Technology: Work with companies to make Mars and mining work.
  • Culture: Use social media stars to promote families without upsetting people.

List of Solutions (Brief Sentences)

  1. Print $8 trillion to fund businesses, growing GDP to $37.6 trillion.
  2. Create a $4 trillion deleveraging currency to boost GDP by $6 trillion.
  3. Let 10 states make gold-backed or crypto currencies worth $26 billion.
  4. Spend $800 billion on AI, green tech, and biotech to increase exports to $3.5 trillion.
  5. Invest $400 billion in asteroid mining to earn $80 billion a year.
  6. Build an alternate market using new currencies to grow local economies by 5%.
  7. Partner with Japan, South Korea, and Philippines for $500 billion in manufacturing.
  8. Build bullet trains in states for $100 billion, boosting GDPs by 5%.
  9. Create an External Revenue Service to collect $100 billion in taxes.
  10. Join BRICS for trade, increasing exports by $350 billion.
  11. Recover $10 billion a year from corrupt politicians.
  12. Build an authentic market outside stocks, growing economies by 3%.
  13. Return to the gold standard, reducing debt-to-GDP by 5%.
  14. Spend $200 billion to colonize Mars, adding $500 billion in industries.
  15. Invest $100 billion in nuclear and free energy, saving $1 trillion.
  16. Fund space missions for $50 billion to find $50 billion in metals.
  17. Pay $10 billion for business ideas, creating 100,000 businesses.
  18. Give $5 billion to artists, growing cultural exports to $100 billion.
  19. Spend $5 billion to let “degenerate” culture boost fertility by 0.1.
  20. Switch to organic food for $50 billion, raising productivity by 5%.
  21. Build $10 billion in teen cars, getting 1 million to work.
  22. Build $100 billion underground rails, boosting GDPs by 3%.
  23. Fund $10 billion for psychologists to raise better kids.
  24. Spend $5 billion to make work fun, boosting productivity by 3%.
  25. Build $20 billion in tiny homes, housing 1 million young people.
  26. Teach ethics for $5 billion, saving $10 billion in crime costs.
  27. Research easier pregnancies for $5 billion, adding 50,000 births.
  28. Train 100,000 orphans for $5 billion, adding $15 billion to GDP.
  29. Create safe drug facilities for $10 billion, helping 500,000 get jobs.
  30. Add 57 million workers with immigration, childcare, and AI.
  31. Raise fertility to 2.0 with $200 billion in incentives.
  32. Build 2 million homes a year for $640 billion to hit $300,000 prices.
  33. Double farming to $1 trillion with $84 billion.
  34. Triple manufacturing to $6 trillion with $168 billion.
  35. Spend $9.5 billion to fix culture, raising fertility by 0.15.

Conclusion

This plan will pay off the $6 trillion new debt in four years (by 2029) using taxes ($2 trillion), a wealth fund ($1.5 trillion), export/farming revenues ($1.88 trillion), and corruption recovery ($40 billion). Inflation helps cover the rest. The original $34 trillion debt will be stabilized at 100% of GDP ($40 trillion economy by 2029). The U.S. will break even (no new deficits) by 2029, earning $7.2 trillion a year in taxes (18% of $40 trillion GDP). By 2055, the economy could hit $47 trillion, creating 20 million jobs, housing millions, and feeding the world, making America richer and stronger than ever!

Added ideas not included in the above plan:
-Recycling initiative.
-Planting fruit trees in urban areas initiative.
-Stop child trafficing, teach them American values and language, and turn them into future US workers.
-Turn specific US desert areas into rich green areas through water reserve methods.
-Expand small towns using remote work initiative incentives.
-Build community centers in major areas to influence community growth and gender interaction using fun activities, single events, and festivals.
-Build a new American Economic World Order (instead of the Globalist’s New World Order) and have countries pay to enter.

If you like any of the ideas, give me a :+1:. If you have your own ideas, add them below. Thank you for the long read.

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How much of it did you actually write yourself?

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A lot of refining in promp engineering, format correction, and added notes. This info isnt relevent. What did you think of these ideas? Do you think it will help pay off the debt?

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No. There is a lot of conjecture in your proposal. And as I am sure you realize, every government program ever created cost many, many times more than the estimates so your 40 trillion total will probably be 100 trillion before it is all over. I do like the mine asteroids idea, except, how many even come close to earth? And the Orphan Academies, train orphans to be better workers. Are they not good workers now?

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I hope the orphans aren’t workers. That would be horrible. I’m just adding ideas to pay off the national debt and get the US back in track. Im sure it’s not perfect. I feel we need more creative ideas to rebuild this country.

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Wow! There is a lot here. It is obvious that you have given this a lot of thought, and spend a good deal of time writing this, even with the help of AI. With that in mind, I will not just casually dismiss what you’re proposing but will try to provide a thoughtful response to your proposed solutions.

Let’s start with the section “More Workers”

You open this section with the assertion, “We need 57 million new workers by 2029”.
I’m not going to quibble over where you come up with that number, but I will address your proposed methods of getting there.

Where do these workers come from? The US Bureau of Labor Statistics projects an increase of 6.7 million jobs between the years 2023 and 2033, so over a 10 year period that is an increase of 670,000 jobs per year. This gives you 2.68 million jobs of your needed 57 million jobs. Now to come up with a way to create 54.32 million jobs, and workers to fill those jobs.

Using childcare credits you project the addition of 4 million women in the workforce. With the addition of 4 million workers we have reduced the number of needed jobs to 50.32 million.

By raising the retirement age to 70 another 8 million workers are added, we have now reduced the needed workers to 42.32 million.

Although the idea is to increase the workforce you are proposing using AI to make workers more productive. This results in a reduction in the current workforce by 30 million workers. This brings the total number of workers needed to 72.32 million.

The current workforce stands at approximately 161.94 million, and there are approximately 7.08 million unemployed people. If we were to achieve 100% employment we would still need to add 65.24 million workers in 4 years. Since we have put everyone of working age to work, we have increased the retirement age, added more women to the work force, where do these additional workers come from? Even if we didn’t eliminate the 30 million workers through the use of AI we would still need to find 35.24 million workers.

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That number came from AI. Apparently that’s what it calculated how many workers we need. I assume it got that number from the beauro of labor statistics, but I also question about this number. I guess we can only speculate because where else would you come up with finding a real number for this. Even when I do the math on how many people we will need, I assume we always need more workers because we do not know the actual amount of people in this country and the actual state of our economy so I use the national debt and the Break-even point as targets for improvment.

Also, I believe a smaller goal that contributes greatly to getting more workers and growth is increasing their participation in the labor maket. So to create the optimal labor force, i came up with afew ideas. The biggest being there is the use of AI to make complex tasks or repetative more simple. People are prized more than robots and AI. Robots and AI are just tools. I also like the idea there is technology in the form of games to make jobs more entertaining or addicting. This should bring Gen Z and later millenials into the labor market. We can also adapt jobs for elder care so that older individuals can keep working without too much problems if they so choose. We would also have to make it easier for individuals to get hired and fired if tasks arent done to a decent amount of expectations. All this contributes to the participation rate. If we can target what workers want in jobs, the participation rate should increase. I know Ragan focused on growth so that would need to be the next goal, but increase in participation would also be crucial. I speculate 170.3 million additional workers would be needed (80,000 jobs per month adding 3.84 million workers over 4 years), according to my last calculation without AI. The numbers are hard to come up with. Maybe someone who is more experienced can help come up with more accurate numbers. As for how we get those people, I suggest we optimize the participation rate and utilize the people we already have by making work more desirable and somehow make some of the cost of living more balanced.

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It kind of is.

I think that by and large, they’re dumb and will only make things worse.

How does money printing fix the economy and pay off debt when money printing is what causes inflation? What on Earth does ‘creating new currencies’ even mean? By what logic will colonizing mars and acquiring minerals from it happen in a mere four years? By what expectation will men just up and marry the women you plan to somehow import?

You list a lot of bad ideas and don’t even bother to explain how you think those bad ideas will result in good outcomes.

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MK I already address these answers. It seems with logical and critical thinking skills, it’s possible to piece how some of these influence each other. To not understand this, it seems there is either a lack of logic, ethics, ability to interpret information, ability to reason, or the ability to critically think for oneself and examine multiple angles at once. This presents the issue of single dimensional thinking instead of multi-dimensional thinking. This leaves me to believe if asking questions for the sake of provocation for an emotional response, personal emotional satisfaction, or to elicit the reaction of others is the desired effect. I expect, if this is the case, one’s respons will be denial instead of self reflection, examination, and improvment. Confrontation only favors the weak intellectually and emotionally with greater examinations, reflections, and resolutions waiting to be resolved within oneself. Exposing and expressing these behaviors wont build self improvment. In such a case learning ethics, obtaining accurate information, conducting personal research (of all possible sources), not asking questions for the sake of a response or reaction but to obtain information for the sake of actually learning and formulating solutions will be a lot more benefitial and productive. The information is only a suggestion on how i would fix the economy, given, the information is accurate. Accuracy seems to be part of the challenge because the beuro of labor statistics doesnt hold variables to evaluate every data point that can be extracted for more accurate data. An example is population size, migrated population densities, and how many people are actually unemployed and not participating in the labor market and the reasons why. These present accuracy issues. But as to your questions, many of the answers cross over with other solutions. Other questions have already been explained. To go through each would otherwise be teaching a class on this which is not the main goal of this policy. Im continuing to brainstorm more solutions, it requires a lot of thought in a field I dont have as much experience in. I’m not the best person for the overall solution, but I wont hezitate to make an attempt if it present great ideas to others who can improve upon this model and its solutions.

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Realistically speaking, this answer reads like it was also written by AI.

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Nah, that comes from profesional on-the-job experience.

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What part of your ‘on-the-job experience’ tells you that any of your numbers have any basis in reality and will actually do anything to fix the economy or pay off the debt?

Look at your claims about printing money - you’re arguing that somehow, printing more money to give it away will somehow fix things by making the debt-to-GDP ratio less bad even as you admit that even in your supposedly positive calculations it will still be well over 100%. All while still increasing inflation.

But you make no effort to explain how any of that works in defiance of all logic.

If the government could fix the economy and pay off the debt by printing money it would have done that already.

You’ve assembled a grab-bag of miscellaneous policies, done nothing to back up your claims as to how they will actually work in real-world practice, and the best you can do to defend your policy is throw out a bloated, meaningless word salad response that is oriented more towards sounding good and getting out of having an actual discussion and would put the world’s most grandstanding politician to shame.

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If you can’t comprehend what I’m writing then that’s a solution you’ll have to find buddy. I’m still crafting solutions. Visionairies and artists don’t build great things listening to every person. Also, be the change you want to see. You only live once. Live with great purpose. Nihilism offers no solutions and shows evidence of a lack of life experiences before discovering how precious life actually is. Take it from a guy with colon cancer.

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Short answer to a long thesis.

Like most people you have not internalized what a trillion is. This number is so astronomical it is impossible for the human mind to wrap around it. To spend a trillion dollars you would have to write a check for $100 every 5 minutes for a period as long as the Earth has existed to date. The only way to spend a trillion dollars is to have a humongous central government confiscating wealth, printing dollars out of thin air, and spreading it around mostly through corruption. Our federal budget should not be anywhere near even 1 trillion dollars.

The only true solution is to start over with the original Constitution and the authorized powers. When federal spending is reconstructed via the constitution, it could only be done with zero based budgeting.

None of this will ever happen so we are doomed to whatever modest fixes we can apply until Christ returns to take us home.

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I feel ya. You might be right. I still want to belive it can be fixed with some sort of long plan.

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How does one comprehend the incomprehensible?

If a crafted ‘solution’ would do far more harm than good, then it would be better if the solution weren’t crafted in the first place.

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I agree. Put the budget into numbers ordinary people can understand. During budgeting departments ask for specific increases or more dollars. Since very few people, or probably no one, can relate to billions and trillions of dollars, I purpose that a better way is to ask for a percentage of the taxes brought in the previous year, and it must always add up to 100%. Over 100% and you are going into debt. One department wants more, someone has to take less. You never spend more than you took in last year. Some items might have set amounts, examples might be Social security - 25%, Defense - 20%, Rainy Day fund - 3%, etc. Thanks for the idea Mike S.

Defence wants a bigger percentace, shut down USAID, Social Security needs more, stop funding PBS and NPR. Works like your family budget.

My very first post.

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This all sounds like a project 2025, some is good and some is really bad. lots of solutions, but it gives us a good start to solve the huge debt.

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Ultimately you’re suggesting that a problem caused by too much central planning can be fixed with more central planning. It cannot. If it were actually implemented, it would only dig a deeper hole. Much, much deeper. The only way to shrink the debt is to spend, tax, and regulate less.

Your essay on ethics and critical thinking is ironic. Virtually all of the solutions are unexamined “X will lead to Y” statements with no consideration of who will do them, how, how success will be ensured, the possibility of failure, or potential second, third, fourth+ order effects. Regarding ethics, the entire proposal is authoritarian, and therefore unethical.

Most of these ideas have already been studied and written about at length for many decades, and I don’t see any signs that you’re familiar with any of it. You should think critically and come to your own conclusions, but when you have an idea, the very first thing you do is learn what other people have already said or learned about the subject; not doing that ensures you’ll waste your time on mistakes and dead ends that are already well-understood. You need to read more.

Some of the suggestions aren’t even finished—build a market outside the stock market with fewer rules: market for what? Stocks? If so, why not deregulate the stock market? How can a country have two stock markets? Do you understand the difference between “a stock exchange” and “the stock market?” If not stocks, why do they need a new market? Non-stocks, which includes everything in the entire economy that’s not a stock, are already not traded on the stock market, and subject to varying degrees of regulation.

In short, this plan will destroy jobs, crush the economy, and probably lead to hyperinflation. Put away your wrench; the economy’s organic.

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Thank you for the unecissary scolding. I’m by far no expert and have a lot to learn, but i’m learning and building new methods as we speak. I’m tossing out ideas that dont work and compiling new ideas. Its been a lot of fun, hopefully I can create a better plan and solution with numbers that make sense. Overall, i’m happy to try and solve this incredible and difficult puzzle. :+1: