Merge re: Standard Time, Daylight Saving Time, Clock Changes

Merge re: Standard Time, Daylight Saving Time, Clock Changes

Several posts have been made that can be merged into three. But the three cannot be merged with each other, as two of them are exact opposites (and the third is ambiguous).

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Merge as “End DST, Make Standard Time Permanent”:

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Written by @Benwa10

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Written by @mr_jay_pea

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Written by @Laurachapman89

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Written by @Katherine41

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Merge as “End Standard Time, Make DST Permanent”:

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Written by @Brandon

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Written by @Mannyhandy897

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Merge as “End Clock Change, Make Either Standard Time or DST Permanent”:

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Written by @PriceIsRight

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Written by @Leb

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Suffice it to say, simply stop changing the clocks. There is no reason for it any longer.

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I’m not sure how this merge thing works, but I’ll put in my 2 cents. I’m glad that you’re passionate, but if we’re going to meet in the middle, let’s say that the states decide. I’m pro DST, where it’s nice and sunny later. Unless the sun rises past 8am, keep the clocks forward.

I don’t have any counter argument. States should redo their time zones once and for all for a year round time. Preferably the sun sets later than 7, and rises no later than 8. I don’t know why children are a talking point regarding this. My English grandmother walked to school in the dark, and they’ll grow up like us and appreciate a sunny evening after work.

Unless the sun rises past 8am, keep the clocks forward.

Permanent DST would push sunrise past 8am for 3+ months in most states, and it would push sunrise later than 8:45am for a week in most states.

I don’t know why children are a talking point regarding this.

When the US last tried permanent DST in 1974, millions of Americans were forced to school and work in the dark all winter. Several deaths and many injuries were reported.

Thank you for sharing. It’s good to see a map of the time zones. Not that I’m trying to be dismissive of the tragedies, but it really seems sensible to let the states decide. One big decision doesn’t help an issue that isn’t one size fits all. Because yes, DST in the rocky mountains in the winter is extreme, yet standard time in SoCal would make it dark way to early in the summer. And if Central TX (where I live) stayed on clock changes, everything would be optimal as summers are bright late, but winter mornings aren’t all that dark.

When clocks are misaligned from the sun, either by Daylight Saving Time or by time zone gerrymandering, people die.

An individual might enjoy DST, but he/she could sooner start his/her own day earlier, rather than force the general population into unhealthy living conditions.

tell that to the millions of people who work night shift and never see the morning sun.

Move the clock 30 minutes back in a few weeks and LEAVE it there. The farmers get up before daylight, and go to work after dark.

tell that to the millions of people who work night shift and never see the morning sun.

We do. Shift work is even more harmful than DST. Permanent Standard Time would help shift workers.

Move the clock 30 minutes back in a few weeks and LEAVE it there.

Standard Time aligns clocks to the sun, for optimal health. There is no reason to add an offset of 30 minutes or 60 or more.

I completely agree with Jay that keeping standard time is the way to go. After learning how bad it is to change times I was initially happy to stop changing with either standard or daylight. But after digging into it and learning more, I now understand that permanent DST is clearly the worst option. Changing times like we do now is actually better. But hands down the best solution is permanent standard time. We should aim to align our clocks with natural, sun based time. This is the best for everyone s health and the most logical. If folks like to have more daylight in the afternoon, then just go to work earlier, no need to change the time.

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Merged into 3 as suggested