Ban all mRNA shots

No of course not ban all. This is ridiculous - they should be disincentivized - I agree here but straight out banning could prevent a needed vaccine that otherwise would have been available for very serious active diseases.

(Why should they be disincentivized in my opinion? Potential to destroy non-regenerating cells because of the delivery method - and the stability of mrna does not appear to be properly evaluated leading to overproduction of the antigen)

Agreed. Th

Iā€™m a nurse and have seen the harm and deaths firsthand. These mRNA injections should NEVER had been used! It is a fact that they have caused more harm and deaths than all other medical interventions in the history of humanity combined.

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I thought that was the case

This proposal addresses the unethical nature of the misuse of emergency authorization and mandate implementation without accountability or transparencyā€¦
:point_right: The Pharmaceutical Accountability and Transparency Act (PATA)

I understand it well enough to have suspected quite a lot of the side effects, which indeed did hsppen, at a time when all scientists that were allowed to speak on mass media claimed that there would be no side effects, at all.

yes, ban mRNA.

letā€™s talk about it maybe 10 or 20 years from now, after further research.

And you miss the point that science is showing that vaccines not needed, improve immune system, zinc+ionophoresā€¦ disease as per Gov reports declined years before vaccines released with improved water and sanitation.

Then, let me suggest that you and RFK Jr require that all school districts allocate 1 school to which all voluntarily not-fully-vaxed kids will attend. Those with medical excuses will remain in the other schools. This way you can prove your idea by simply putting all of the unvaxed kids together.
I would guess that in 2-4 years, everybody would understand exactly is going on.

For everyone on this platform - deprogram the last generations that the FEDERAL GOV was to be limited to be out of our lives so people can live free.
Get Fed Gov out of illegal Gain of Function (GOF) creation of mRNA bioweapons peddled for the diseases they are creating (study evil strategy of creating ā€œsolutionā€ for problems created). We have a society programmed, brain-washed, used to broken that they only try to address staying in broken system versus eliminating it.

Not to rain on your medical parade, my friend, but first off, confessing to be formerly connected with the CDC, and then espousing CDC talking points here, while effectively steering clear of the real cardiac/circulatory/autoimmune injuries reported with mRNA COVID vs. COVID vaccination, and not taking into account that everyone on the planet connected to the internet can weigh your posted information against thousands of other micro-biologists who might argue against your stated positions/claim, really does you a disservice. Not to get drawn into your field of expertise (and of those thousands of MDs who might argue against you), I will simply drop ONE link in here to establish my pointā€¦

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-50656-8

Although the above study concludes that mRNA might show little ā€˜currentā€™ health risks, it also leaves quite a bit of room for lack of information, and possible health risks based on demographic and other conditions ā€“ with much more study needed for long-term conclusions. This link was a ā€œpoliteā€ one ā€“ there are others that might even present you as a short-sighted CDC shill for presenting your text in the fashion that you did. If you need proof of that as wellā€¦let me provide a single bit of seemed evidence (out of thousands)ā€¦

Anyway, I hope that clears any confusion that might arise from loosing your audience by including too much technological jargon, while also raising awareness as to why some contrary information (like reported debilitating injuries and massive direct intercellular DNA contamination potential) might have been excluded from your post. Glad to help! Thanks. :kissing_smiling_eyes:

Except for saying that Iā€™m not even going to respond to this and youā€™re the only person Iā€™ve come across that spouts off this propaganda, Iā€™m not even going to respond to this.

On a separate issueā€¦I can tell by the way you communicate you are one of the most miserable, rude and condescending people Iā€™ve ever had the misfortune of coming across.

You obviously do not have a science background. You would have read the article, or at least skimmed the very first paragraph. So, let me point out the RELEVANT part that you seemed to of ignore or simply were unable to read:

We report that the risk of developing most AI-CTDs did not increase following mRNA vaccination, except for systemic lupus erythematosus with a **1.16-fold risk in vaccinated individuals relative to controls**. Comparable results were reported in the stratified analyses for age, sex, mRNA vaccine type, and prior history of non-mRNA vaccination. However, a booster vaccination was associated with an increased risk of some AI-CTDs including alopecia areata, psoriasis, and rheumatoid arthritis. **Overall, we conclude that mRNA-based vaccinations are not associated with an increased risk of most AI-CTDs, although further research is needed regarding its potential association with certain conditions**.

The last sentence says it all. The 1.16-fold would be barely noticeable and could easily be any other reason.

Now, as to Ladapo, he DOES have an MD and PhD, which is useful, until you realize that none of it was about micro-bio/immunolgy. His PhD was Health Policy which meansā€¦ POLITICIAN. His B. of S. was in Chemistry. IOW, this guy had less microbio/immunology than I had. And yet, when he submitted questions to true experts at CDC and got back answers, he choose to ignore them.

I am guessing that you do not understand about vaccinations, why get them, how they work, or even why ppl screaming that there are mRNA vegi shots proves how foolish ppl have become.
Vaccinations is simply a means of stimulating our immune system. It will NOT prevent infection. In fact, it COUNTS on the infection, just that your body has millions of cells ready to fight it and stop it before it overcomes you.
Most vax inject other elements as well as the antigen (the item that specific immune cells will build antibodies to). These other items and sometimes, the antigen, will cause issues in SOME ppl, namely allergic reactions, where they might be so severe as to produce anaphylaxis. Other than the mRNA shots, this will happen in the first 5 minutes. Why? Because you inject the antigen directly in. Now, the mRNA vax is not likely to produce allergic reaction, though they DID find a very tiny portion did. And when I say, tiny, I mean one of the lowest of all times. It was impressive. BUT, the mRNA is absorbed by cells and then via ribosomes, starts producing the protein, or antigen. It is POSSIBLE for that antigen to cause issues. It COULD cause allergic reactions. And we do KNOW that it did cause some myocarditis. Now, was the due to the mRNA Delivery system? Nope. It was due to the antigen that it produced. A different protein might have no effect on the heart. The fact that it was tiny numbers and far less than what we KNOW that sar-cov-2 caused, it is possible, if not probable, that the patients were infected by sar-cov-2.

Outside of a very uneducated America, all other nations are SCREAMING for these vaccines, but also for the technology on how mRNA works. Why? Because ALL of the other vaccines had numerous side effects and/or were far less effective. mRNA shots are NOT going away. It is the safest delivery systems of a vaccine. The fact that Ladapo could not discern the difference between a delivery system, vs, a possible antigen reaction (which I would say that he over reacted to), shows that he suffers from not enough knowledge and did not care. He just wanted to be the big guy without caring about the patient. Far too many of MDs today are like that. It is why in NiH and CDC, we need ppl with SCIENCE PhDs, and ideally with a TRUE medical background.

Hopefully, this will help you to understand why you are so wrong.

Well, since you have it all figured out Mr. Micro-Bio-Genius, you might send a counter-letter over to the Florida State Attorney Generalā€™s office, who sent a letter to your CDC (non-government private company that owns 80+ patents on lethal enhanced microbes) and tell them that they are mistaken ā€“ and that you firmly believe that mRNA vaccines are ā€˜safe and effectiveā€™, right? Might I present, Exhibit C, released only recently:

You are obviously not well-versed in handling counter-arguments, dynamic logical constructs, deductive vs. inductive reasoning, assimilating supporting evidence, or proper case-building either, or you would not try to lure me into the infamous ā€œweeds of jargonā€ without initially putting to rest the much more damaging proof of DNA contamination concerns supplied to you (Exhibits B & C) ā€“ showing that the Surgeon General and the entire State of Florida take the polar opposite side of your presumed ā€œsafe and effective" argument regarding mRNA vaccines.

I now present Exhibit D, provided by Mr. Micro-Bio-Genius, itself containing direct contridictions to professional scientific concerns expressed in Exhibits: B & C:

If this forum was a jury of our peers, who would they instinctively believe ā€“ a self-confessed CDC-bias ex-employee (AKA: a Mr. Micro-Bio-Genius of Significantly-Demonstrated Delusions of Grandeous Self-Importance), or the simple, reputable and proven State of Florida? I think most here would place their trust in the latter, especially with the concerns that the State of Florida specifically addresses: ā€œDNA Contaminationā€. And just to make it more clear and summarized to the audienceā€“- Contamination references the fragments of broken DNA and RNA found floating all over the place inside mRNA vaccines (we wonā€™t even touch the disgusting origins of these bits and chunks of DNA contaminants in this posting). The ā€œmRNA vaccineā€ also allows for such ā€œbrokenā€ molecular bits of contamination to come into direct contact with living human DNA, the molecules can possibly fuse together (since the covalent charged ends of the broken molecule can attach to equally charged human receptor molecules). The danger of this is exponentially pronounced during mitotic cellular division, where copies are made of the molecular strands. The new mutated molecular arrangement is also copied into the new cellā€¦becoming 4 cells, then 8, then 16ā€¦then 32ā€¦etc. I think anyone can see the potential problem here, without our even getting into how the valence electrons of the charged ions in the broken DNA/RNA chains actually pull the molecules together in the first place, right Mr. Micro-Bio-Genius?

And be sure to get your counter-argument mailed out to the Florida Surgeon Generalā€™s office so that they will not send anymore protest letters to the non-governmental private gain-of-function-patent-administration called ā€˜the CDCā€™. You are the perfect POC and SME since you, for all practical purposes, admit to working with. and representing the CDC for these many years.

Their letter is re-attached for your ā€˜counter-argumentā€™ preparation convenienceā€¦

It appears as though you may be out of your league, fighting the Surgeon General and the entire state of Florida on mRNA vaccine safety concerns (underlined in Exhibits B & C). This forum will reach a sensible and just verdict, I feel confident - afterall, the DNA that you risk contaminating is THEIRS, right? No need to reply with more snarky insults or technical jargon ā€“ the case rests here, my dear. (Who knows? The audience/jury might agree to ā€œBan all mRNA shotsā€ after reviewing our lovely and informative exchange). Have a nice day, Mr. Micro-Bio-Genius. :grinning:

All mRNA shots should be banned. The technology is unsafe. Not to be used on livestock or pets either. None. Nowhere.

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Absolutely agree Genie. It is like a master key that opens Pandoraā€™s box, releasing DNA contamination directly into the human cell. I see no diference in a mandated mRNA vaccine or a loaded weapon aimed at me. Both are potentially lethal in the wrong hands. And recent medical and political history has revealed that the American People are ā€œcovered upā€ in ā€œwrong handsā€.

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Now, as to Ladapo, he DOES have an MD and PhD, which is useful, until you realize that none of it was about micro-bio/immunolgy. His PhD was Health Policy which meansā€¦ POLITICIAN. His BS was in Chemistry. IOW, this guy had less microbio/immunology than I had. And yet, when he submitted questions to true experts at CDC and got back answers, he choose to ignore them.

I am guessing that you do not understand about vaccinations, why get them, how they work, or even why ppl screaming that there are mRNA vegi shots proves how foolish ppl have become.
Vaccinations is simply a means of stimulating our immune system. It will NOT prevent infection. In fact, it COUNTS on the infection, just that your body has millions of cells ready to fight it and stop it before it overcomes you.
Most vax inject other elements as well as the antigen (the item that specific immune cells will build antibodies to). These other items and sometimes, the antigen, will cause issues in SOME ppl, namely allergic reactions, where they might be so severe as to produce anaphylaxis. Other than the mRNA shots, this will happen in the first 5 minutes. Why? Because you inject the antigen directly in. Now, the mRNA vax is not likely to produce allergic reaction, though they DID find a very tiny portion did. And when I say, tiny, I mean one of the lowest of all times. It was impressive. BUT, the mRNA is absorbed by cells and then via ribosomes, starts producing the protein, or antigen. It is POSSIBLE for that antigen to cause issues. It COULD cause allergic reactions. And we do KNOW that it did cause some myocarditis. Now, was the due to the mRNA Delivery system? Nope. It was due to the antigen that it produced. A different protein might have no effect on the heart. The fact that it was tiny numbers and far less than what we KNOW that sar-cov-2 caused, it is possible, if not probable, that the patients were infected by sar-cov-2.

Outside of a very uneducated America, all other nations are SCREAMING for these vaccines, but also for the technology on how mRNA works. Why? Because ALL of the other vaccines had numerous side effects and/or were far less effective. mRNA shots are NOT going away. It is the safest delivery systems of a vaccine. The fact that Ladapo could not discern the difference between a delivery system, vs, a possible antigen reaction (which I would say that he over reacted to), shows that he suffers from not enough knowledge and did not care. He just wanted to be the big guy without caring about the patient. Far too many of MDs today are like that. It is why in NiH and CDC, we need ppl with SCIENCE PhDs, and ideally with a TRUE medical background.

Hopefully, this will help you to understand why you are so wrong and will stop trying to murder ppl and hurt America.

You obviously do not have a science background. If you had even a minor one, you would have read the article, or at least skimmed the very first paragraph. So, let me point out the RELEVANT part that you seemed to of ignore or simply were unable to read:

We report that the risk of developing most AI-CTDs did not increase following mRNA vaccination, except for systemic lupus erythematosus with a 1.16-fold risk in vaccinated individuals relative to controls. Comparable results were reported in the stratified analyses for age, sex, mRNA vaccine type, and prior history of non-mRNA vaccination. However, a booster vaccination was associated with an increased risk of some AI-CTDs including alopecia areata, psoriasis, and rheumatoid arthritis. Overall, we conclude that mRNA-based vaccinations are not associated with an increased risk of most AI-CTDs, although further research is needed regarding its potential association with certain conditions.

The last sentence says it all. The 1.16-fold would be barely noticeable and could easily be any other reason.

Now, as to Ladapo, he DOES have an MD and PhD, which is useful, until you realize that none of it was about micro-bio/immunolgy. His PhD was Health Policy which meansā€¦ POLITICIAN. His BS was in Chemistry. IOW, this guy had less microbio/immunology than I had. And yet, when he submitted questions to true experts at CDC and got back answers, he choose to ignore them.

Now, obviously, if I have no respect for that manā€™s lack of education/science background, you can well imagine that I have even less for yours when you obviously are NOT in the science nor in medical fields. You are picking up stuff without even understanding why you are so wrong.

I am guessing that you do not understand about vaccinations, why get them, how they work, or even why ppl screaming that there are mRNA vegi shots proves how foolish ppl have become.
Vaccinations is simply a means of stimulating our immune system. It will NOT prevent infection. In fact, it COUNTS on the infection, just that your body has millions of cells ready to fight it and stop it before it overcomes you.
Most vax inject other elements as well as the antigen (the item that specific immune cells will build antibodies to). These other items and sometimes, the antigen, will cause issues in SOME ppl, namely allergic reactions, where they might be so severe as to produce anaphylaxis. Other than the mRNA shots, this will happen in the first 5 minutes. Why? Because you inject the antigen directly in. Now, the mRNA vax is not likely to produce allergic reaction, though they DID find a very tiny portion did. And when I say, tiny, I mean one of the lowest of all times. It was impressive. BUT, the mRNA is absorbed by cells and then via ribosomes, starts producing the protein, or antigen. It is POSSIBLE for that antigen to cause issues. It COULD cause allergic reactions. And we do KNOW that it did cause some myocarditis. Now, was the due to the mRNA vaccine? Nope. It was due to the antigen that it produced. A different protein would have no effect on the heart. The fact that it was tiny numbers and far less than what we KNOW that sar-cov-2 caused, it is possible, if not probable, that the patients were infected by sar-cov-2.

Outside of a very uneducated America, all other nations are SCREAMING for these vaccines, but also for the technology on how mRNA works. Why? Because ALL of the other vaccines had numerous side effects and/or were far less effective. mRNA shots are NOT going away. It is the safest delivery systems of a vaccine. The fact that Ladapo could not discren the difference between a delivery system, vs, a possible antigen reaction (which I would say that he over reacted to), shows that he suffers from not enough knowledge and did not care. He just wanted to be the big guy without caring about the patient. Far too many of MDs today are like that. It is why in NiH and CDC, we need ppl with SCIENCE PhDs, and ideally with a TRUE medical background.

Hopefully, this will help you to understand why you are so wrong and will stop trying to murder ppl and hurt America.

:::YAWN::: :sleeping:

Go play child ā€“ it was good while it lasted. The damage is doneā€¦the milk cannot be ā€œunspilledā€. You are prime example of someone who cannot see the forest for the trees. Your argument that ā€œmRNA vaccines are safe and effectiveā€ has been destroyed and you are still screaming and stumbling around in the ā€œjungle of jargonā€ while slinging insults, not realizing that you have already been defeated by the state of Florida. Iā€™ve seen many educated idiots in my upper level engineering courses ā€“ you certainly fit the bill. Now, rush out and get that letter mailed off to the Governor of Florida pronto, so that he doesnā€™t make anymore ā€œlethalā€ policy mistakes. Tata! :mask:

Let me guess. You hate GMO food, along with Nuclear power. Likewise, you KNOW that Apollo did not happen, and that the earth is flat.