Absolutely not. If you cut everyone else in line, you should actually go to the back of the line and/or get kicked out of the store.
America is not the world’s country and you are not entitled to everything we built, and breaking our laws is so disrespectful that it should exclude you from consideration for years if not a lifetime.
If they are illegal they are breaking the law and they clearly are not paying any taxes. Sure give them citizenship and make them pay back taxes for all the years they worked here and paid zero taxes, not to mention any public assistance they received, they will need to pay back along with back taxes before they can obtain citizenship, sounds good to me.
You have no paperwork stating that you are here legally, you were not issued a social security number, you are working and being paid under the table and paying zero taxes, yeah they know they are breaking the law and are here illegally. You want to give these people citizenship, have them pay back taxes and pay back all the public assistance they received while not paying a penny in taxes and once all that is paid off then they become eligible to get their citizenship. Also all the legal immigrants like myself and my family need to be fully reimbursed for the thousands we paid in paperwork, doctor’s visits to obtain our green cards and then when I became a US Citizen I again paid thousands in paperwork, pay all of us back since these people can just walk across and do whatever they want. But of course, no one gives a crap about the upstanding legal immigrants who did it right and love this country, no let’s just reward people who break the law. Plus if you are so concerned about them, take them all in and provide for them instead of using my tax money for illegals.
Again rewarding criminals, yeah great idea!
Ummm. Sorry i do. I got a social security number a birth certificate. Let me ask u this do u think this would have happened lets jus say obama he would open the border? Probably not so then this wouldn’t have happened correct. Their wouldn’t be an issue but it was done, done by Biden and his administration including kamala and whoever else okayed it with all the other services they provided for them. Now if the government just handing them out to them who’s fault is it. They gave up everything assuming they would stay and help. Because that what they were told, now the criminals idc do what u want to them. Because they actually did a crime.
Economic activity
Immigrants generated an estimated $1.6 trillion in economic activity in 2022. This includes the $236.6 billion in income generated by immigrant households, and the $170.9 billion in spending power they held.
Tax revenue
Immigrants paid over $579 billion in local, state, and federal taxes in 2022. This includes $382.9 billion in federal taxes and $196.3 billion in state and local taxes.
Labor force growth
Immigrants have been a major driver of labor force growth in the U.S. over the past 20 years. Between 2000 and 2022, the number of foreign-born people of prime working age grew by almost 7 million.
Self-employment
The number of self-employed immigrants rose by 45.8 percent between 2010 and 2022, which is more than six times the rate of U.S.-born counterparts.
Entrepreneurship
The number of immigrant entrepreneurs within Main Street businesses rose by 20.7 percent, which is two and a half times that of U.S.-born entrepreneurs
Now that’s in from them. So why not give the others citizen ship shall we look at 2023
Net immigration
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that net immigration to the U.S. was 3.3 million in 2023. This is higher than the 1 million or so the CBO projected pre-pandemic.
Immigrant labor force
In 2023, 31 million immigrants worked in the U.S., making up almost 19% of the civilian workforce. The foreign-born population had a labor force participation rate of nearly 67%, compared to roughly 62% for the native-born workforce.
Immigration growth
The number of immigrants in the U.S. grew by 3.6% between 2022 and 2023. This is below the historical peaks of 5.5% annual growth between 1994 and 2000.
Immigration and the economy
Immigration can help grow the economy by increasing the labor force. The surge in immigration has also led to:
Faster growth of the labor force
Greater demand for residential investment
Increased interest rates
Feel free to take them in YOUR house and use YOUR money to support them. Until you do that you are only talk and no action.
If there is room for all the illegals then why is there over 4 million people waiting in the legal system because there aren’t enough greencards. We are sponsoring our married son who lives in England. We have been waiting so far for 9 years and will be waiting at least another 5. Surely they should be allowed their chance at the American dream. I think there should be a cap of 5 years waiting for a green card to become available and then they should be issued a temporary visa which allows them to come here and work whilst their green card application is still pending in the system.
Okay, so what you are telling me is that you came here illegally and got a social security number assigned to you? Because if you are illegal, you do not get a social security number and you don’t pay taxes. If you do have a social security number as an illegal is because you have stolen someone else’s social security number and assumed their identity. Thanks for posting statistics that were created by LEGAL immigrants immigrants in this country and not illegal immigrants. So again, let’s establish who I am talking to, are you an illegal?
I think Reagan made a way for citizenship. Very few wanted it. I know many illegals that work buy a home and are great people. After years they still can’t speak English. I’m all for leaving this group alone. There are also alot that are on food stamps,that needs to stop.
Great Idea. I think the bigger issue is we need our countries to work together on this. What a lot of people don’t seem to realize is the system is so broken. Like why would someone with a family, with kids risk not only their lives but their children’s lives. Why would they not do it the legal SAFE way? Travel all that way, risk being caught, risk being killed or trafficked… So first the system needs to get better and that is going to take effort from both sides and will need to be able to work together. I do agree to the background checks. Daca kids should definitely be given citizenship because this is where they grew up. This is their home. But especially because so many illegals are contributing much more than quite a few Americans, they should be given a chance. Anyone with a criminal background (other than crossing the border) should get sent back. But if you have a clean record and you contribute, I think they should be heard out. For example my family came over illegally. They are citizens now but my grandma owned her own business and employed Americans. My mom, aunt, and unlces all served in the military. So that’s a lot more than a lot of Americans can say for themselves.
You are hung up on only one aspect of the big picture .
Yeah it’s called they are illegal and are breaking the law, that’s not an aspect that’s the facts. If you are so concerned, open your house up to all the illegals, let them live with you and provide for them. Oh yeah, but you won’t, you just want everyone else’s tax money to pay for them, like some how the American people owe these people something., which we don’t. Deport, deport, deport.
If they are here illegally, they should go back and start the path to citizenship legally.
My husband’s first wife came from Canada.
She had a green card which allowed her to stay.
She never sought citizenship but always a green card. I do believe the DACA kids should have a pathway. I would think that a lot of them are old enough to have applied for citizenship. Perhaps also the parents should have applied by now.
All these illegals poured into the country when we were in the midst of COVID crisis where all supplies were low. They increased the demand for literally everything and I believe were a major cause of all this inflation. Supply vs demand! They need to leave and come back the correct way like the LEGAL immigrants here.
There are some really good ideas in this thread. Here’s my proposal for everthing in one place. It’s “tough love”, “fire and ICE” hehehe, “war and peace”, etc.
Note: my BLUE CARD holder is a Regularized” alien who can never become a citizen.
I do my best to maintain decorum and to make arguments that I can support, but this kind of lunatic idea is BULLSH!T. I’m sure it makes you feel good and think yourself better than those who oppose your errant thinking, but we cannot allow this to happen, AGAIN.
From your avatar you appear to be young. I’m not (past 80) and I’ve seen this stupid, vapid reasoning played out before. Reagan made an agreement that was totally disregarded by those who want to see this great nation overrun by criminals. Every single one of those who crossed is a criminal. While I can’t say that those too young to make a personal choice were responsible, they certainly are culpable. Bad choices by parents almost always have negative consequences for their children. It’s sad, but it’s true. There should be no exceptions and no emotional blackmail trying to justify it.
You do know that blackmail (not the emotional kind) is a crime, don’t you? Emotional blackmail is just as heinous, maybe moreso. Psychiatrists will tell you that it is antisocial behavior rooted in psychoses.
You didn’t ask for any advice, but I’ll give you some. GROW UP! Quit trying to force your own bad logic and mindless emotionalism down others’ throats.
Before building another foot of border wall, I want to see hundreds of thousands of acres in every state fenced in with double fences and concertina wire with WWII style barracks built therein to hold every illegal who can be found. Where intact families are found and proved to be so by DNA tests, put them in camps where only families are housed. Once they are incarcerated, authorities can begin to prioritize which will be deported first. I would advocate some permanent biological marking so that if they are ever incarcerated again, they can be identified. Yes, that sounds a lot like the German concentration camps. The difference is that German prisoners weren’t criminals. Needs must!
Before you toss the old canard about all of us being immigrants, I’ll head you off. Yes, I’m descended from immigrants . . . immigrants who came here in the 1630s. I’m descended from one of the first 500 English speaking colonial families. They came here under auspices of the King of England and helped to build what those who came more than a century later came to take advantage of without taking the risks my forebears did.
John, I agree with most of what you say; but I disagree with you on so-called dreamers. To avoid interminable court battles that serve only to enrich lawyers, those who were brought here illegally as children should be given the choice of self-deporting or serving 5 years in a government service corps similar to the WPA.
Your 10th point should specify a minimum of 20 years without pardon or parole for any NGO officer and all who support NGOs whether financially or as volunteers. They have acted against the best interests of the country and against the laws of duly elected officials. They too are criminals. Without stiff penalties, others will be convinced to do the same again. THIS LUNACY NEEDS TO CEASE!
Nope, if you don’t have a valid green card or work visa, you are here illegally and need to leave period! The whole dreamers BS, everyone that is trying to come to America legally and has done so or is currently waiting, dreamed of coming to America one day, myself included and we didn’t get no breaks, my family waited 11 years to come here, screw these people, dream your butt back to your country and dream about coming to America until you are able to do so legally! Again, what a slap in our faces that followed the process and obeyed the immigration laws, and now they just get to do whatever they want because we should feel sorry for them? Absolutely not, no one felt sorry for us and let us cut to the front of the line, completely absurd.
My ancestors too! Born in England, died in Rhode Island and Connecticut in the 1600s. YDNA proved.