Migrant Money for US Citizens

As we all know, the majority of American people are suffering. Suffering to pay their bills, keep food on yhe table, afford insurance and much more. With the mass deportation, I propose that the US citizens receive a years with of monthly checks to get back on our feet and to be able to breathe again.

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We are 35+ trillion dollars in debt, where do you purpose the money will come from? There is no such thing as “free from the government”.

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The same place they are getting it from for migrants and foreign aid.

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Great idea.

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And that is the whole problem to Bob’s point. It is exactly this thinking that has created the debt in the 1st place. No return of investment, Another rabbit hole imo.

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Exactly. Thanks

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Bob I hope you are being sarcastic. I generally agree with you all or in part on most things but to your original point this thinking is why we have the debt in the 1st place. The money never comes back.

Yes - Exactly, printing more money is not the answer. Sorry if my answer is confusing.

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How is it ANOTHER rabbit whole if were already in it? Instead of giving it to them, it’d simply be given to US citizens. No extra money involved. At this point if we are 35 trillion in debt, how could it possible affect it negatively?

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Maybe, stop giving fake money to anyone. I am saying your credit card is maxed out, and you want to stop buying the new luxury vacation and start buying the new big screen TV. We can not afford either, and a lot of other stuff also.

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I would rather we use the money saved from getting rid of the migrant programs to pay off the national debt. Yes, we may be suffering now, but if we keep spending like we are, what kind of world will we leave the children?

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If you’re looking to take that same money and simply hand it to American taxpayers, you’re looking at an annual grand total of about $981 for each person (Which would likely apply to your income tax as well).

Sara, you are ready to take over a Latin American country! :sweat_smile:

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Although a tempting idea. since I would also be on the receiving end of that policy proposal, I think that it is not solving anything at the national level. It is merely shoving depreciating Federal Reserve IOU banknotes from one group to another. Thus, for the benefit of the entire country, and our grandchildren, I am against a redirection of these fake fiat dollars, that are merely worthless currency/debt instruments backed by nothing but sociatal faith alone, and not actually “money” (see U.S. constitution on the definition of “real money”). Any stimulative effects seen by this “redistribution of debt” policy proposal would be short-lived and shortly undone by virtue of its continul depreciation in purchasing power (purposely created by design).

If the American People are to get paid ANYTHING for the pain and suffering that they have endured under this endless parade of criminal Presidential Administrations (excluding Trump) , they should get paid in REAL MONEY that does not depreciate over time. In other words, we should first print out trillions more of these WORTHLESS Federal Reserve notes and pay off the national debt and settle our obligations of debt instruments (treasury bills, notes, bonds, contractual obligations, etc) held by other countries who have profited off us for going on 100 years (via debt forgiveness, foreign investments {Marshall Plan rebuilding all of Europe after WWII on taxpayer dime], endless defense spending, military aid, illegal immigrant expenses, social/poverty donations to needy countries for famine and social engineering programs, endless yearly subsidies to other countries and instutions like Israel, Canada, Mexico, United Nations, NATO, WHO, etc).

In short – give that worthless private bank debt note (owned by the non-govt Israeli-stakeholding Federal Reserve) paper trash to all of those countries and institutions that claim the American People owe them repayment for debts incurred. The debts were generated by the Federal Reserve and paid-off politicians owned by the Federal Reserve. This debt was largely NOT authorized and generated by the American People. This should solve our non-”national debt” payoff conundrum. If it still doesn’t then we should point to the remaining creditors to the private banking cartel called : The Federal Reserve, and tell them that their complaints and settlements rest soley with them and NOT the American People.

Now, once we have the treasonous private Federal Reserve pay off ITS personally owed debt (which is NOT “our national debt”), then we can talk about having the Treasury Dept of the United States go back to printing our fixed and non-inflationary currency, backing it with precious metals and natural resources, so that the American People can get back on their feet again with REAL VALUE that cannot be depreciated annually by 3% per year by private bankers. You may find out real quickly that, even out of the gate, that a $1 Treasury Note would have the purchasing power of today’s $100 Federal Reserve garbage note.

So, let’s get rid of all the “undocumented criminals” first, wipe out the immediate threat on the southern border with the drug cartels, and then go after the non-Federal Federal Reserve (that has no reserves, but only a printing press), and take it down as well, replacing it with the Treasury, as the Founding Fathers would have agreed. We wipe out the fake debt with fake money, install new valid money, help Americans by repaying them in REAL MONEY for the years of suffering and wealth loss due to FAKE MONEY, and call it a day. This, I would imagine, is the proper form of restitution for the American People, for generations to come. :moneybag: :us: :dollar:

End Note: Finally, we might confiscate the Federal Reserve printing press and retire it to the Smithsonian Institue, where it might serve as an eternal reminder to the American People, to never allow foreign private banking families and globalist institutions to gain control of America’s soverign and sacred money supply.

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AFAIK, getting rid of the Fed is one thing I haven’t heard Trump mention. He probably knows that was the final straw that got JFK whacked.

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Initially, it makes sense if your options are to spend taxpayer’s funds on illegal immigrants versus spending it on U.S. citizens. But I think the whole purpose of going hard after illegal immigration now is the strain it has put on taxpayer’s and the economy (as well as the hospital systems, etc.). The idea is to cut wasteful government spending while also holding criminal actors accountable (as well as making migration a safer option than it currently is). It is like Welfare: it has an honorable era of helping those how needed it until it turned into a voting block and a lifestyle.

Yes. Beware of unintended consequences.

The government handing out free money was part of the reason why inflation really took off. I think that money would be better used to pay down the national debt. Because as that debt level gets higher and higher it will have a negative effect on everybody living in the US. Yes plenty of people are struggling right now, but I think we can better help people if we lower the costs of everything.

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The government doesn’t produce anything. The only money it has it steals from taxpayers. This proposal would essentially mean stealing money from the taxpayers, laundering it through dozens of corrupt bureaucrats, and then giving what remains back to them. A shortcut towards achieving this end would be to stop stealing the money from taxpayers altogether.

And this of course ignores both the inevitable massive hike in inflation as well as the unfathomable damage done to the national debt. Maintaining an unpayable national debt only ensures our continued servitude to both the political elites and the corrupt banking system that is their purse strings.

And on the other side of events, millions of short-term thinkers would immediately quit their jobs to live off the government windfall for the next year. If you wanted to completely tank a national economy, I can’t think of a better way to do it.

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This is what many BELIEVE is the case about tax revenue (below):

You are taught the below steps in school, and economists spread the lie constantly…

  1. We pay taxes to the federal government to fund federal spending.
  2. When there are not enough tax dollars, the federal government borrows dollars via Treasury bills, notes, and bonds.
  3. As employees of businesses, we receive payment, part of which goes to the federal government in taxes to fund government spending.

Thus, around and around she goes: Federal spending — > federal taxing and borrowing —> more federal spending. This is a complete LIE.

Here is how it ACTUALLY works (below):

The federal government creates dollars. It does not use tax dollars. It destroys tax dollars. And the federal government does not borrow dollars. Not ever.

Money comes from thin air, or more correctly, from federal money creation via deficit spending. The federal government merely pressed a few computer keys, and the dollars came into existence. Your taxes are only levied against you to give you the illusion that you are in control of government spending and have a say in government. It is all a lie. And the more money that they “invent out of thin air”, the lower the purchasing power goes for the money you have in your pocket, and the higher the prices of everything else go (inflation). So when they invent money through a computer screen to pay something off, they are indirectly stealing your wealth by lowering the value of all dollars already in existence. The more dollars out there, the less they are worth, and vice versa.

They don’t need your taxes to pay off debts when they can simply **type the necessary dollar amount" on a computer keyboard and never have to worry about touching any collected tax money. So whether the migrants get handed money, or someone else does, YOU are still paying for it the second it happens because of the instantly felt depreciation of the purchasing power of that $5 bill in your pocket, which suddenly, can buy only $4.98 worth of goods and services. This is the TRUE reason for “inflation” – it is the depreciation of your dollars, requiring even more dollars to by the same thing. And this is a direct result of the government creating money out of thin air on a computer screen without even touching your tax dollars.

Migrant money redirection will continue to cost everyone in the end, and for that reason, is not a benificial suggestion. There is no magical bucket of taxpayer money sitting around that could be given to one group as opposed to another. The Fed (after Congressional spending authorization via this policy proposal, should it be inacted) would simply be inventing new money on a computer keyboard to a different group of people, thereby stealing an equivalent amount in purchasing power, spread over the rest of us, when doing so. I hope this helps explain the immediate adverse impacts regarding this policy proposal. :slight_smile:

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