Justice for crimes

Bring back the death penalty in all 50 states!!

Individuals who commit intentional, extreme and murderous crimes should be put under trial for the death penalty as justice for their actions (e.i. Jose Ibarra- Laken Riley’s killer). This policy will not only bring fairness to the criminal justice system and relief to the families of victims, but may also act as a crime deterrent as well. Prison for life sometimes just is not enough for the crimes some of these people commit.

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I understand the feeling, but I can’t support the death penalty because once you’re dead, you can’t change, you’re set for eternity. I know it galls to leave the worst of the worst in there alive while their victims don’t get to live their lives taken from them. I understand and agree with the sentiment.

But… leave them alive and spare an innocent person from having the convict’s death on their hands (the executioner). This way, the convicted person has as much time as God, or nature if you will, gives them to see what they’ve done and repent.

What most people overlook is that however evil a person becomes, some do, once in a while, actually have an epiphany. And that’s a big punishment, to come to your senses and see what a terrible person you are, the evil you’ve done, and to start feeling bad for it. I would think a real epiphany of that nature is torture. Just and deserved pain, that leaves the hands of the innocent clean.

And for heaven’s sake do NOT then get all squishy and stupid and let them out. People also LIE. They’re in there for what they’ve done, to keep society safe because they’ve proven they can’t be trusted with the safety of other people.

Most don’t change, I agree. And if they don’t, they’ll end up burned away in hellfire with full, perfect justice.

Which brings me to another reason to leave them alive- sometimes people are wrongfully convicted. Our judgements are imperfect, our system is corrupt, and a permanent thing like death… mistakes happen. You can’t fix dead. Multiplying one tragedy into another is not a good thing. Deciding on actions based on anger and pain rarely has a good outcome.

I understand most people will disagree and want vengeance. Well, we all have our opinions. I have an obligation to say what I said.

In addition, not everyone has a religious stance on justice. So to make everyone rely on the assumption that an individual will suffer in hell for their actions, will not always resonate with everyone.

As mentioned in my initial post, if individuals understand the potential of death penalty congruent with capital level crimes, this may serve as a crime deterrent and influence a societal change.

The court systems may also decide to place limitations on capital punishment, such as severity of the crime as well as having enough substantial evidence to withhold the charge.

I can see your point of view, however, there are options that allow for an anonymous executioner like a firing squad. There may also be individuals out there in the world who would willingly sign up for the position to do so. The assumption that a person will suffer enough in prison is unjust in my opinion. They get free food, a warm bed, opportunities to make friends and play sports, all at the expense of tax payer money. The least we can do for victims like Laken Riley is give her the justice she deserves, as the killer did not think twice about murdering her. In my opinion, some people do not deserve sympathy for the choices they make. In addition, just because the death penalty may be offered in each state, does not mean it will be the outcome. I do agree that there are instances where people are wrongfully convicted, however that only accounts for 4% of people in US. In this instance, if not enough reliable evidence is found to convict a person of death penalty, jurors are usually pretty deliberate on making their decisions in an organized and sensible manner. There are still a lot of questions and concerns regarding our justice and court system in the US, but to be quite frank, it is exhausting seeing people like Jose Ibarra get off easy for such a heinous crime-murdering an innocent college girl.

“In addition, not everyone has a religious stance on justice. So to make everyone rely on the assumption that an individual will suffer in hell for their actions, will not always resonate with everyone”

Yep, that’s actually why I needed to say it that way. Who even thinks of that idea anymore?

Until about a week ago I’ve been keeping my mouth shut about my relationship with God for a decade in case I could someday have a chance to participate in discussions without being discounted and invalidated for it. I knew I wouldn’t be heard or be able to make some helpful points if I admit to believing in God.

But now that I have the chance to say something I’ve realized it’s been detrimental to our society that people stopped saying what’s called “the religious point of view.” Ah the irony.

Actually it’s not a religious point of view, it’s the reality I’m living. I don’t care about the say so of organizations or their agenda and I’m certainly not parroting their words even when our words are the same.

So, though I understand most people disagree, it’s good for society to have heard other arguments and ways of thinking. Never know when some one may simply see even one thing in a different way once they’re exposed to another angle. That gives them more freedom to choose, by the way

I’ve realized I have to choose between convincing people of points I want to make and saying what needs to be said whether they’ll listen or not. So; God’s not going to be keen on people cutting short his opportunities to fix the most obviously and violently broken. (Sometimes people end up in prison just so God can get a hold of them there-People at rock bottom have nowhere else to turn.) And even less happy with evil spreading itself to the innocent through our completely justified anger, hurt, and want for revenge leading us to do evil things and become one of them. That’s one of evil’s big tools.

That said I do think the death penalty for treason might be justifiable without being contradictory because I can’t think of any way to stop at least the ‘elites’ side stepping imprisonment with all their money and power and buddy-system favors etc. The real point is to stop the harm being done to society, individually and collectively, and some of these people won’t be even hindered by prison. What else can be done? I can’t think of any other options as yet.

the death penalty has never served as a deterrent, neither has longer sentences or harsher treatment. We, as a society are caging teenagers and grooming them for state prison, rather than state college. Take the profit away from the Prison “industry” and see what happens, in 1986 All the corporations that service jails and prisons were allowed to be publicly traded on Wall ST. Prisoners became a commodity and killing them off isn’t good for business, better to have all the beds full alll the time!!!