Intelligence Requirements for Politicians

Observation: There are FAR too many stupid people in politics, as well as politicians with dual-loyalties.

I propose an application process for those running for elected office which requires all who are running to:

  1. Be a native-born citizen, not an immigrant, and not a dual-citizen.
  2. Pass a test on history, civics, economics, or other relevant fields.
  3. Take an IQ test and pass a minimum IQ of (some number, to be decided).

This should weed out a lot of the problem people in our government.

Of course we can also ban them from buying stocks and other things too, and make sure they are financially incentivized to do what is best for the people.

But I think this is just an added layer of protection, seeing as our current wave of politicians is about as useless as one could possibly imagine.

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There is a civil service exam. They should, at minimum, be able to pass that!

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This is an entirely different issue; you can be a native-born American Citizen and still be an idiot, or else an immigrant and still be a genius.

Likewise, this is an entirely different matter.

IQ tests are widely misunderstood and not the magic intelligence determination tool that most people seem to think they are.

I think a significant problematic contribution to our candidate quality problem is lack of realistic competition in elections. The two party hegemony shoehorns people into one of two options. You may have noticed that in a country this large, there are more than two opinions. Candidates are relieved of needing to express their proposed solutions to problems, as they can simply spend their campaign time criticizing their opposition.
Unless we prioritize electing representatives who champion true electoral choice by opening ballot access, we will continue to lack sufficient adults in the room to grapple with our real problems. Will hell freeze over first?

I agree wholeheartedly.

  • those with dual citizenships have no loyalty to any country.

  • those who don’t have American ancestry have no business in American politics.

  • I’m on board with an IQ test. I believe the pass minimum should be 95%. I also would included they be fluent in the U.S. Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.

I believe our politicians are more corrupt than useless?

I also believe those who are not corrupt are BETA males and BETA females who are to just plain old scared to fight for what they believe in so they go along to get along.

If we want quality politicians then we are going to have to raise and help raise children to grown into adults of quality.

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My! My! Such RACIST talk!

Just think of the number of poor black and latino people who would not be able to hold office!

(insert tongue-in-cheek emoji)

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Human intelligence follows a normal distribution. Think of what that curve looks like. The mean (average) is a value of 100. Half the world has a lower IQ and half a higher IQ. For my money, 100 should be marginally acceptable to have the kind of power we give to politicians. I’d rather see the minimum set at 120 (about 10% of the population).

BUT . . . instead of intelligence we should be more concerned with integrity and morality as requirements. Give me a moral man with an IQ of 90 over a man with an IQ of 135 who has no integrity and is morally bankrupt.

LOL
They can’t hold public office now because no one with money will back them.

Ahr, you might want to think about not using the word RACIST when you don’t know what it means ans when you don’t know what it means you don’t know when to use it.

People are not RACIST because they have a point-of-view different from your point-of-view.

In America, Americans have the freedom of speech and the freedom to believe as they want without the push back of someone who doesn’t know it means to be American.

:rofl: , while there’s truth in your comment, I don’t see intelligence as being a major factor for leadership. If their heart is in the right place, they will work for the people, rather than for money, power & self interest.

I would love to see this country move toward an election system that bye passes the influence of money. So the entire process is focused on publicly held debates, & paid advertising is banned! People like Komala, Biden, Bushes & Hillary Clinton would never win an election without money & then transparency into their past. Why, because none of these globalist fools can speak from the heart. Their talk is to get elected, & then they get into office only to do the exact opposite of what they say.

And if there was REAL transparency with the Obama’s, they never would have made it into office. A simple gender test would been VERY reveling to the public. Transparency->Required!

We NEED MAGA leaders, not more millionaires in office, or Soros funded patsies!

Start with local televised debates, winner moves up to the region, then the state levels. Also create a national public facing application which could link into X, where voting history & all relevant history is clearly posted for everyone to see, & also to make comments.

3 more key points:

  1. US mainstream media is TOXIC, & whoever televises these Fake & deceptive stories needs to be jailed & tried for treason!
  2. We need a simple system to remove an elected official gone rogue, so we should have bi-yearly rating polls to ensure they’re doing their job, & if their rating falls below a certain level, they’re promptly replaced.
  3. Term limits for all leadership roles within the govt, including intel
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@Garbage Disposal
My! My!

If one looks at my post following the one GD takes exception to (about IQ distribution), one must conclude that GD falls far to the left in the normal distribution (but probably still within one standard deviation) because he/she/it cannot recognize sarcasm in the use of word “racist”. Perhaps GD needs to learn that the term is misused by all blacks who claim that everything they dislike by anyone not like them is racist (without knowing or acknowledging that their use of the term is almost always incorrect and racially motivated).

In fact, I agree (in the main) with the post Kendall Williams made, but I pointed to it and to GD’s response with sarcastic delight.

The US does not recognize dual citizenship but allows citizens to hold passports issued by other countries. I would argue that the US should require all who hold a US passport (and, thereby, citizenship in the US) to forswear all others or lose US citizenship. As Kendall points out, divided loyalty is not really loyalty at all. Who can trust divided loyalty?

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yes indeed this would help

I agree and many are clearly very stupid with low IQs. However, I wish we could also weed out the rest of this group of 99% of them (in politics), with an integrity or soul checker device which of course, bring it down to maybe 1% remaining, if we were lucky.

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Mac, you are spot on. I won’t address media toxicity (though I agree with you) but here are a few ideas.

  1. Misuse or Abuse of Office
    Government officials are given (by law, apparently because it’s not in the constitution) something akin to sovereign immunity to protect them from lawsuits while in office. Lawfare is real and a powerful tool against those who seek or are in power. Look at how it was used against Trump. Most people don’t have the assets needed to withstand such onslaughts. The problem is that the immunity is far too broad and there are few apparent means to limit it. It’s possible to define 3 levels of abuse or misuse of office; however.

Definitions I propose are a hierarchy starting with nonfeasance, then misfeasance and ultimatelyl malfeasance meaning, respectively, not performing duties of an office (nonfeasance), performing duties of office very poorly but without provable illegal intent (misfeasance), and performing duties of an office to achieve illegal ends (malfeasance). Further, each type includes the lesser types such that malfeasance includes misfeasance and nonfeasance and misfeasance includes non-feasance. These precepts should be codified - preferably within the constitution - and applied to all who perform any duties of government whether paid or unpaid. This should apply to all elected officials, appointed officials and judges, and to all who are employed directly or indirectly in performing functions authorized or directed by government.

Having the precepts codified is worthless without a means to invoke them. At present, the only way to bring any challenges against any individuals identified above is through the legal system or acts congress or state governing bodies. This is insufficient because those institutions have created and perpetuate protections (that might be used against them) making the bar too high. There should be a means, included when the precepts are codified, for public petition to invoke charges. The threshold should be sufficiently high to prevent its use as a political tool and sufficiently low to make it feasible (maybe something like 10-15% (see note 1, below) of the number who voted in the most recent election (not limited to those who voted but limited to those qualified and registered to vote in the last election). Upon presentation of the requisite minimum number of petitioners’ signatures, persons accused should be suspended from their duties until investigations, hearings and decisions on each case are completed. This would have the effect of stopping any use of powers of office from affecting the outcome AND preventing an accused from continuing to engage in questionable activities. Some thought must be given to venues for hearings. Venues must be chosen to assure that hearings are outside the purview of the accused. For example, accused congressmen might be heard by the courts; accused jurists might be heard by congress; and accused administrative personnel (from president to the least bureaucrats) might be heard by a combination of jurists and congressmen drawn by lot.

Had such provisions been in place during the last administration, border security could have been restored within a few months instead of not being restored until after the election and people like Mayorkas, Biden, Garland might have been suspended from office in the meantime.

  1. Term Limits
    Term limits should also address the length of terms of office for the House, IMO. House members are forced to spend too much time and attention to fundraising and electioneering. Their terms should be increased to 3 years.

Here are limits I propose:
a) An overarching and cumulative period of 20 years service in every and all capacities to include elective and appointive office, consulting in any capacity, and lobbying.
b) A limit of 2 terms for any and every office except for civil service employment which should be capped at 20 years of cumulative service for all employees and a limit of 6 years in any supervisory or managerial civil service job. The latter would assure turnover that yields fresh ideas while also limiting span of influence. Note that the limit of 2 terms does not mean consecutive but 2 in total. (see note 2, below)
c) A limit of 15 years for all federal magistrates, judges and justices in every and all courts of jurisdiction. Terms should be staggered to assure that no president picks a number that skews the courts’ political makeup, to the extent possible. Any who choose to retire or who die before end of term should mean the seat remains vacant until the next term begins for the seat. This would prevent strategic retirements such as the one that resulted in Katanji Jackson being appointed.
d) No one who has served in a regulatory capacity - in congress or in the bureaucracy - should be allowed to be employed in the industry they regulated or in a closely related industry, to include retired military from being employed by defense contactors and suppliers.

I apologize for such a verbose response, but I’ve come to these concepts over a long life (more than 6 decades as an adult) and close observation of political and government practices. I have been acquainted with federal congressmen (house and senate), judges and high ranking bureaucrats.


Note 1: About 155 million people voted in 2024; a 10 % threshold for a successful petition to charge officials would, therefore be 15 million signatures.

Note 2: Suppose a person were elected to the house, then the senate then became a judge. The maximum term in the house would be 6 years (based on revised terms) and in the senate 12 years which would mean that person could serve as a judge for only 2 years given an 20 year lifetime service limit.

Ahr Ahr_Aitch since you are so hostile I will honor you by not ever responding to another of your posts.

Skin color matters a damn to me. A criminal is a criminal whose skin color has nothing to do with the criminal committing criminal acts.

It appears that you are just as ignorant as you claim me to be so we must be two peas in a pod.

Thank you for letting me know how superior you feel over others and how you express your superiority by being belligerent.

Such thin skin should not go forth in public. :innocent:

You must find micro aggression at every turn. It would also help if you learned how to take criticism, how to recognize sarcasm, and how not find offense when none is intended.