We tried permanent daylight savings time - it failed, miserably: The US Tried Permanent Daylight Saving Time in the ’70s. People Hated It - Washingtonian
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i want to keep daylight savings it is nice having more light at the end of the day when i get home from work and we already have it for 9 months – i think we should get rid of standard time. Cheers – the reason we have the time zones is due to the railroad and scheduling. and for airlines now.
hopefully we eliminate the standard time — not good changing back and forth.
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Or start earlier like capable thinking people do. Let the 24 time zones be enough to enable the larger community interactions requiring it, and adjust your own schedule to meet your desired outcomes. Time zones are a world-spanning construction and it’s silly for one piece of one continent to shift theirs because the people can’t figure out how to start their day an hour earlier on their own.
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Finally, let’s get this done too. Congress is worthless.
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It’s because it’s way too dark in the mornings when people have to get up for work and school and even doctor’s appointments and other things. Many offices open at 8:00 am. In many places, during the winter it will barely be daylight by then. If you only need even one hour to get ready and travel to the appointment, it will still be pitch dark at 7:00 am. We need morning daylight!
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How do you adjust your own schedule when you have to conform with work schedules set by your employer, church schedules set by your church, doctors’ offices schedules set by the doctors, etc.?
Permanent Standard Time! I agree! Those people who want DST all year round don’t realize how late it will be dark in the mornings during the winters. The time zone should be set as close to solar time as possible. It’s naturally darker in the winter and lighter in the summer. It’s not natural for it to be daylight at 9:00 pm and later in the summer. It just causes people to want to stay up longer, and then they are sleep-deprived. Once we stop changing the clocks, people will adjust, and they won’t be shocked by the sudden changes twice a year; the changes will be gradual, just as nature intended.
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You have conversations with your employer, your church, your doctor… when the time zone is static through the year, people will be more likely to favor flexibility. They may in fact shift their overall operating hours if enough of their people have similar desires. And if the lifestyle afforded by your employee status doesn’t fit with your having usable daylight goals- seek other employment.
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That’s silly. Having businesses and other entities adjust their hours to conform with the amount of daylight defeats the purpose of eliminating the time change. As for changing employers, that’s often easier said than done - for any reason.
Ditch Daylight Saving Time (fast time) and restore permanent Standard Time (natural time), for the health, mood, safety, education, and economy of schoolchildren, commuters, farmers, construction workers, and more!
Permanent Standard Time alone can end clock change quickly, safely, and fairly, as most people wish. It can do so without delaying sunrise, for well-being and prosperity. Permanent Standard Time has been observed for decades in Arizona, Hawaii, all five US territories, and most nations. Most of Mexico restored permanent Standard Time in late 2022, and more American states now have permanent Standard Time bills than ever before. Permanent Standard Time would protect start times for schoolchildren and essential workers (farmers, police, firefighters, commercial drivers, transit operators, healthcare personnel, teachers, and more) by letting most sleep naturally past sunrise most days. Its benefits to circadian health would improve immunity, longevity, mood, alertness, and performance in school, sports, and work. It can prevent traffic deaths, lower crime, and reduce chronic illnesses. Standard Time is the honest and natural clock, set to the sun (also known for this reason as God’s time), which balances morning and evening light fairly.
Some might consider permanent DST, but history and science show this is worse than biannual clock change. Permanent DST would delay sunrise past 8am (when most school/work begins) more than three months in most states, and later even than 8:45am for a week in most states. It increased deaths and injuries when last attempted in the US. It would force constituents to wake an hour early relative to solar time every weekday all winter. Americans rejected permanent DST in 1974, and it failed in several other years and places. It would deprive morning light needed by farmers and construction workers. It would revert benefits of starting school later. It would delay radio broadcasts of morning news until most people have begun work. It would increase need for morning heat and evening air conditioning in homes. It would disrupt worship for those who pray at sunrise. Moving clocks to DST acutely deprives sleep; leaving clocks on DST chronically deprives sleep. DST’s delayed sunrise significantly increases accidents, disease, and healthcare costs. It significantly decreases learning, productivity, and earnings. Let those who prefer DST wake themselves early.
Scores of organizations and hundreds of researchers, physicians, teachers, parents, religious leaders, and journalists on the right and left oppose DST and endorse permanent Standard Time. Among these are the Society for Research on Biological Rhythms, Sleep Research Society, National Sleep Foundation, American Academy of Sleep Medicine, American Academy of Neurology, American College of Chest Physicians, National Safety Council, National PTA, editorial boards of Bloomberg, Star Tribune, Oregonian, Sun Sentinel, writers from Cato, Daily Wire, Breaking Points, and many others.
Please hear the nonpartisan consensus of history, science, and common sense. Save time, money, and lives. Make clocks honest again! Let’s ditch DST and restore permanent Standard Time.
Illustration of the difference between Standard Time and Daylight Saving Time:
Map of sunrise times for permanent Standard Time versus permanent Daylight Saving Time:
Comparison photos of winter mornings with Daylight Saving Time versus Standard Time:
Historical news clippings from the last time the United States tried permanent Daylight Saving Time:
Quotations in support of permanent Standard Time:
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Having a choice is never silly. You telling me I have to call 4am 5am is silly. DST means starting an hour earlier. If you want to do that, feel free. Don’t tell the entire country we have to pretend it’s already an hour from now. I think it is sufficient we pretend it is the same hour on the east and west end of the time zone even though the sun says otherwise. IIrc, it started with trains, and now that we have airplanes, it is even more valuable to call the time a certain thing across a wide area. But changing it part of the year doesn’t help anything and makes more trouble within and without these USA.
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I would love them to get rid of Standard time vs Daily Savings Time. It’s great to have more daylight in the Summer.
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Would prefer to stay on daylight savings time permanent. Like lighter evenings. Would rather have change than lost summer evenings.
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You have it backwards. STANDARD time is the actual time! DST is the one which is artificial. You want to say it’s 5 am when it’s only 4 am. You want to call it noon when it’s only 11 am. The sun is supposed to be overhead at noon, not at 1 pm the way it is during DST. Keeping permanent DST is “pretending,” as you put it.
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As I am not a “morning person” I respectfully disagree. I live in southern California and if DST was abolished, that would mean a super early sunrise and even earlier dawn where I live in southern California. The earliest sunrise with DST is at about 05h41 which means that would go back to 04h41 if Standard Time remained in effect year round. And civil, nautical and astronomical twilight would take place even earlier. So it would be 3 something in the morning when it would get light at the end of spring/beginning of summer if Standard Time was to be effective all year.
How does this not have a million votes!? I’ve been screaming this for years! DLS is no longer a relevant necessity, hasn’t been for decades, and it makes zero sense to keep it.
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I couldn’t agree more. We live in the digital age where we can talk in real time with people across the globe. It truly is not needed.
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People may argue about getting home from work in the dark, but I’d rather that than the fact that my children have to wait for the school bus in the pre-dawn darkness during the months of DST. Way less safe for them.
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No I don’t have it backwards. You just said the same thing I did- that DST takes ‘standard 4am,’ and calls it ‘5am.’
I am loathe to call standard by dst, as I am perfectly capable of choosing to start early without being told to. I very much want to keep standard permanent.
It looks as though we may agree and that is encouraging.
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I’d like to see DST be year round instead of a year round standard time.
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