Formal Update to U.S. Health and Human Services Codified Definition of Mental Illness to Include "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (TDS)

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This policy proposal calls for the creation and enactment of a U.S. Legislative bill to modify the current U.S. Health and Human Services (HHS) definition of mental illness, adding a definition for Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS), amending appropriate statutes and subdivisions, using similar State of Minnesota bill S.F. No. 2589 Ninety-Fourth Session guidelines for definition modifications, below.

SENATE
STATE OF MINNESOTA
S.F. No. 2589NINETY-FOURTH SESSION
(SENATE AUTHORS: LUCERO, Drazkowski, Wesenberg, Eichorn and Gruenhagen)
OFFICIAL STATUSD-PGDATE
Introduction and first reading 03/17/2025
Referred to Health and Human Services

1.1 A bill for an act
1.2 relating to mental health; modifying the definition of mental illness; adding a
1.3 definition for Trump Derangement Syndrome; amending Minnesota Statutes 2024,
1.4 sections 245.462, subdivision 20, by adding a subdivision; 245I.02, subdivision
1.5 29, by adding a subdivision.
1.6 BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA:

1.7-1.17 Section 1. Minnesota Statutes 2024, section 245.462, subdivision 20, is amended to read: Subd. 20. Mental illness. (a) “Mental illness” means Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) or an organic disorder of the brain or a clinically significant disorder of thought, mood, perception, orientation, memory, or behavior that is detailed in a diagnostic codes list published by the commissioner, and that seriously limits a person’s capacity to function in primary aspects of daily living such as personal relations, living arrangements, work, and recreation.
1.14 (b) An “adult with acute mental illness” means an adult who has a mental illness that is
1.15 serious enough to require prompt intervention.
1.16 (c) For purposes of case management and community support services, a “person with
1.17 serious and persistent mental illness” means an adult who has a mental illness and meets at
1.18 least one of the following criteria:
1.19 (1) the adult has undergone two or more episodes of inpatient care for a mental illness
1.20 within the preceding 24 months;
1.21 (2) the adult has experienced a continuous psychiatric hospitalization or residential
1.22 treatment exceeding six months’ duration within the preceding 12 months;

2.1 (3) the adult has been treated by a crisis team two or more times within the preceding
2.2 24 months;
2.3 (4) the adult:
2.4 (i) has a diagnosis of schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, major depression, schizoaffective
2.5 disorder, or borderline personality disorder;
2.6 (ii) indicates a significant impairment in functioning; and
2.7 (iii) has a written opinion from a mental health professional, in the last three years,
2.8 stating that the adult is reasonably likely to have future episodes requiring inpatient or
2.9 residential treatment, of a frequency described in clause (1) or (2), unless ongoing case
2.10 management or community support services are provided;
2.11 (5) the adult has, in the last three years, been committed by a court as a person who is
2.12 mentally ill under chapter 253B, or the adult’s commitment has been stayed or continued;
2.13 (6) the adult (i) was eligible under clauses (1) to (5), but the specified time period has
2.14 expired or the adult was eligible as a child under section 245.4871, subdivision 6; and (ii)
2.15 has a written opinion from a mental health professional, in the last three years, stating that
2.16 the adult is reasonably likely to have future episodes requiring inpatient or residential
2.17 treatment, of a frequency described in clause (1) or (2), unless ongoing case management
2.18 or community support services are provided; or
2.19 (7) the adult was eligible as a child under section 245.4871, subdivision 6, and is age
2.20 21 or younger.
2.21 Sec. 2. Minnesota Statutes 2024, section 245.462, is amended by adding a subdivision to read:

2.23-2.31 Subd. 28. Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS). “Trump Derangement Syndrome” means the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal persons that is in reaction to the policies and presidencies of President Donald J. Trump. Symptoms may include Trump-induced general hysteria, which produces an inability to distinguish between legitimate policy differences and signs of psychic pathology in President Donald J. Trump’s behavior. This may be expressed by:
(1) verbal expressions of intense hostility toward President Donald J. Trump; and
(2) overt acts of aggression and violence against anyone supporting President Donald J. Trump or anything that symbolizes President Donald J. Trump.

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Lot of effort for a joke.

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Have you seen TDS in action? Not too funny…. Looks a LOT like mental illness.

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Yes, it’s silly indeed. However, let’s play out the scenario. Someone who is actually delusional about the President, specifically this one, is what you’re aiming at with something like this. However, putting something like this into law, or into the DSM - now ANY legitimate criticism of the President can be hand-waived away as a ‘mental illness’. Once that happens, we can’t have open dialogue about policies, behaviors, or even simply having a conversation which one doesn’t acknowledge that he is the best and greatest - ever! Again, once that happens we are essentially the North Koreans when considering our ‘Great and Powerful, all consumingly wonderful leader’. We cannot allow that. Our system is great because we are allowed, even encouraged, to criticize the people in charge of the nation.

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Darren, why are you putting so much effort out for a “joke” (as you claimed it to be), when responding to Lisa? We all know what the situation is – so why so many words for a joke? Unless of course, your heart races from the concept of “Orange Man”? And perhaps because it is NOT a joke…but a REAL mental disease? :roll_eyes: Libtards always overly dramatize the moment and pretend that the earth will end when their opinion is not accepted. Darren is doing the same thing, which lets you know that he is but one more libtard ( or a simple beta cuck serving a more dominating libtard woman) in patriotic clothing. Darren, are you but an extention of your woman? Pray tell. Trump will be changing all of that…so do brace yourself and grow a pair.

PS -Lisa… you are correct…TDS is a legitimate mental disease. The entire world has been witness to it. That is why the Democratic party is at an 8% national approval rate – they are going extinct before our very eyes. :laughing:

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Kinda my point right there isnt it? One can’t have a rational discussion about the man without accusations from one end or the other.

See? When did it become so that we can’t have a difference of views without rendering the other side some perceived horrible thing.

But, lets examine this fully - if it IS a real mental disease, as you claim, then what happens when he is no longer in office? Does the disease get removed from the DSM? Do we just change the name to the next Republican President? Let’s say that in 8 years, just to give it some time to breathe, a young up and comer Republican named Max Smith gets elected. Is it now Smith Derangement Syndrome?

People losing their minds over President Trump really is a silly thing - but its time sensitive. He will be out of office in 4 years. So my question to you is - then what? Are we stuck in a never ending loop of claiming mental illness to anyone who expresses dissatisfaction with our President?

You can name call me all you want, it can’t and won’t ever hurt my feelings. But what can hurt me, hurt all Americans, is the breakdown of legitimate conversation about policies and the inability of us to have rational conversations even when we vehemently disagree with one another.

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After four years of seeing the progressive psychosis and public meltdown, I don’t think you need to worry about “then what”. However, to entertain your question further…

You are going on the assumption that the American People will be just as foolish and tolerant of mass psychosis as before. In four years, this libtard psychosis will be avoided like the plague (even by the die-hard progressive-communists), and these sick leftists will be driven out of every corner of our government. It may take a generation or more before a flaming leftist ever gets more than 20% of any votes by the American People – they had their fill with these psychotic destructive tax-and-spend America-Last over-sexualized grifting clowns. There will BE NO LOOP, to be stuck in.

You might as well start getting with the program – a new America is being born…leaving the old one in the ashes of debt, complacency, and psychosis. There is a fitting phrase which certainly rings true in this case: “Overplaying one’s hand.” It only happens once at the table – generally with devastating consequences. No “rational debates” will undo the damage done, this time. It will simply play itself out; and I am quite content with where the progressive-communists have placed themselves - squarely into the corner in which they painted themselves. Most Americans are done with “rational debates” now, and are happy to see these progressive-communists in exactly the position they now find themselves in, while Trump and Elon continue their America-First agenda.

And the time soon arrives, over the the coming months, that all the king’s (leftist-progressive) horses and all the king’s (leftist-communist) men, will never be able to put the psychotic leftist Humpty Dumpty tax-and-spend USAID-money-laundering system back together again. :egg: :fried_egg:

And that, my dear, is your poignant answer for then what"? :face_with_monocle:

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So… they over-played their hand and we, as a nation, won’t go back towards this way of thinking. Then you agree- it’ll be over. We won’t need to add this to the DSM.

My only concern with your agreement to what i was saying is this part

I see that as a problem. We aren’t having rational debate anymore, if they truly ever existed. We aren’t looking at an issue with open eyes. Instead we are discounting any for of criticism as the other person being some libtard, snowflake cuck or nazi, fascist, supremacist- neither of which serves to better our nation but rather divide it. Once we stop being able to see any point of view other than our own (personal view, not national) our country will go the way of the Romans. The only question left will be who gets to play the fiddle while America burns.

All I’m saying is, TDS, while as infuriatingly stupid as it is, isnt really an issue. Because we’ve seen how the pudding is made, and we’re not here for it. The problem is if we get too comfortable with criminalizing, or institutionalizing people who disagree with our point of view. It should not happen, regardless of which side of the isle you’re on.

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No sir, that is NOT the problem. Let me remind you of the problem – the problem has become what it is today because some of us support America-Last policies that institutionalize criminality and corrupt traditional values and methodologies within our government. You might wish and hope that it is merely a problem because there may also be “disagreements with points of view” – and as you might like to steer the definition of the problem in that direction; however, the continued survival of America as a country, with its own preserved traditions and sovereignty, is not a “point of view”. It is a national security interest.

For those who are a clear and present danger to America’s “national security interests”, they have overplayed their hand and will now simply shut up and go sit in the corner while we fix the mess they created. If you feel that you must go whisper sweet nothings in their ear, by all means, knock yourself out. Most Americans simply want these progressive problem children to shut up and stand clear while we fix and reclaim our institutions. The time for “rational debates” was two decades ago. Now it is simply time to shut up – and that is also not a “point of view for disagreement” – it simply is a fact – a fact with which the American People are quite comfortable. We can certainly entertain your desire for “rational debates” AFTER we put the current fire out, gut the institutions and infrastructure of corruption, and bring our govt computer and networking systems into the 21st century, where they cannot be used as money-laundering vehicles anymore. There is a time and place for everything, INCLUDING “rational debates”.

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What makes this statement any different than ‘libtards’ telling people that if they’re white then they need to shut up and listen to people of color?

And who gets to decide this? You? Me? The Party?

Also, we seem to be splitting the issue. Are we taking about TDS and the potential for abuse to label opposing political views as mentally ill? Or are we talking about ensuring that our government is actually performing is duties in support of the American people?

If one looks at my posts in other threads, one can see that I am in full support of Congressional reform, a unified code of Congressional Behavior, and such items in order to get the elected officials to do their jobs correctly.

But, in response to THIS thread- I cannot support a policy, that when in effect calls for the destruction of the citizen’s right to criticize their government under the guise of mental illness. The reason we ARE a great nation is because we can look at our elected ‘leaders’ and tell them what we think they are doing wrong. It is what initially separated us from governments that came before us. Recent years has tainted that. On both ends of the spectrum. We are oft too quick to label the other side as something nefarious. It didn’t start with Trump- if won’t end with him either.

In this regard, we need to do better as a society.

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What makes this statement any different than ‘libtards’ telling people that if they’re white then they need to shut up and listen to people of color? A very easy answer – the difference is that one will most certainly not come about – yet the other will. If you have a problem with why one is not going to happen and the other one will, then you are not too observant with American History or Human Nature.

And who gets to decide this? You? Me? The Party? Human Nature is “deciding” this as we speak. There is nothing for you or I to “decide”. You are having a problem understanding that you, or me, or a party cannot control the outcome here. The outcome is quite predictable and expected. Human Nature operates with an innate “survival instinct”. It cannot be over-ridden. Nothing to decide. Get over it.

Also, we seem to be splitting the issue. Are we taking about TDS and the potential for abuse to label opposing political views as mentally ill? You clearly identified it as a “joke” earlier. Now you wish to elaborate on a “joke”? REALLY?? Or are we talking about ensuring that our government is actually performing is duties in support of the American people? No, “we” are not talking about it – “I” am, using you as a backboard for a wider audience in order to make a lasting impression on how the left and their mass psychosis got us into this mess.

If one looks at my posts in other threads, one can see that I am in full support of Congressional reform, a unified code of Congressional Behavior, and such items in order to get the elected officials to do their jobs correctly. This is a debate tactic called “ appeal to authority ” (while presenting yourself as a source of authority). It is rather worn out and does not have the desired effect in a social media forum setting, but do go on and pat your grandeous backside while I roll out the text which represents the view of the majority of Americans at this time.

But, in response to THIS thread- I cannot support a policy, that when in effect calls for the destruction of the citizen’s right to criticize their government under the guise of mental illness. Again you take the known libtard approach of lessening actions to make them appear almost innocent by mislabeling them in context. For example, when progressive-communists install their kind in our institutions, knowing full well that the intention is the very destruction of America and its cultures, borders, and traditions, this is not called “criticizing one’s govt” – this is called treason with self-destructive actions bordering on mass psychosis. You should not use the tactic of mislabeling things to an audience who is keenly aware of the progressive left destruction and corruption left in their wake over the past several decades, with tens of billions in burnt down cities and trillions in stolen wealth from the American People. You insult your audience with that attempt.

The reason we ARE a great nation is because we can look at our elected ‘leaders’ and tell them what we think they are doing wrong. This is an attempt at misdirection. Let me fix it for you…The reason why we need to “Make America Great Again ”, is because some collection of misfit leftist communists decided to screw it up, burn it down, remove the borders and security, and steal the wealth from the rest of us. (There, I fixed it).

It is what initially separated us from governments that came before us. Recent years has tainted that. On both ends of the spectrum Spectrum is irrelevant – progressive-communists vs. patriotic Americans is a more fitting description. We are oft too quick to label the other side as something nefarious. Too quick? We have seen the destruction for decades – and now it is now destroyed – and we have no choice but to cut costs everywhere and dismiss entire depts ( in case you have not noticed ). On the contrary – it has been far too slow. Labels get attention - attention gets action; thus, labels get action. Don’t pretend to take the moral high ground on the ash heap of a five-alarm fire while speaking kindly about having a “rational discussion” with the arsonists – it makes you look stupid.

It didn’t start with Trump Correct – many progressive America-Last administrations pillaged and plundered in stealth via USAID and other agencies - if won’t end with him either. Correct – the rebuilding of America will eventually succeed through the efforts of subsequent patriotic presidential administrations while leftist progressive-communist influence will long be relegated to the dust bin of American History.

In this regard, we need to do better as a society. We will – and we are starting right now, by identifying the problem and the solution. If you don’t like the solution, then you should go complain about it elsewhere, because Human Nature, and the American People, are all out of patience and understanding regarding this misfit self-destructive America-Last cult.

Now, I think we played out this exchange for all its worth – plenty of info for others to ‘chew on’. I will end my further contribution to it here. Tata. :wink:

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That’s the beauty of free speech and freedom itself, madam- you don’t get to dictate when Im done with anything. If your are, great! Maybe someone else can come in and have a rational discussion.

I’ve done my due diligence on you- when faced with any opposing opinion on any matter you typically resort to childish, pedantic, tiresome tropes - attacking the individual instead of the issue.

You’re not making the strong points you seem to think you are.

  • Appeal to Authority means “I’m an expert (re: Authority) on the topic so i must be right”. Not what i said, nor what i did. I pointed out my stances on issues which, if you’d have researched, you’d have seen that at least half of your derogatory comments about me are just foolishly unjust.

  • My joke comment. Yes it was pithy, but also i truly believed it was a troll post. Because how can one not see where that road leads?

  • Your backboard comment. We have a backboard for other issues- the site were using. Each thread should be about the specific issue. I hijack this thread to talk about how i think eSports should be the National Pasttime, but that would be, both, silly and detrimental to the discussion about THIS topic.

-MAGA - the reason we need too do this is not because of ONE side of the political isle. Both are bloated masses of corruption. The both steal the wealth of is citizens. Its not just a blue issue.

And again, if you’re done- then so be it. But I, along with presumably most people using this site, want discussion. We want to voice our concerns and not just point vitriol towards people we disagree with.

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Well said. The time for debate and discussion with the left is over. It goes nowhere, or they shut down the discussion anyway. The problem I see is people on the center right still seeking the left’s approval and permission to do anything. Showing respect to those who not only haven’t done anything to earn it, but aren’t honorable, and are actively at war against all things honorable. Wrong dynamic. Time to put pressure on the center right to either jump left, jump further right, or get out of the way. There’s no saving or reasoning with leftists, and it’s the middle wits standing in the way holding us back from reclaiming what’s been steadily lost and eroded for the past 70 years. This is what happens when you raise multiple generations, controlled and coddled by the feminine, never taught responsibility, to be productive, and never hear the word no, and we’re never spanked for bad behavior, let alone disciplined in any way. Better late than never.

The left didn’t write the rule book, but they are rewriting the rulebook. Too many on the right are adapting to the rewrite, instead of reverting back to the only recipe that actually works. And forcing integration back to the norm. Those not up to the task need to step aside for those that are. There’s an illusion of choices, but the fog will be lifted.