Food for the People

All family owned farms should be exempt from paying federal taxes as they are providing food for the American People.

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“Farmer Reacts to Netflix Kiss The Ground”

This is who the vast majority of those in the food movement are grossly out of touch with.

Notice how many times he mentions soil HEALTH, and how many times he mentions ENVIRONMENT…aand the only time he mentions environment it’s in the context of HIS environment. None of the food gurus and libshits know how to communicate with red state rural farmers. Virtue signaling about global warming, and the global environment is a luxury they don’t have. And if libshits and gurus actually cared about global warming, and stopping the poison and gmos in food, they would address, direct creativity and resources toward solving the issues below.

Seems like, I hope, RFK jr, Salatin, Massie, Gabe Brown, Ray Archuleta gets it.

Where are the entrepreneurs? It’s amazing to me that organic farmers are responsible for driving the demand and market for what they grow, and building/rebuilding the infrastructure systems to move, buy, sell, deliver, store, and process.

Where are the entrepreneurs and venture capitalists wanting to start new businesses such as innovation in machinery, and supply chain infrastructure?

I think more money needs to be invested in machinery research and development, whether it’s lazers, zappers, flame weeders, and even mechanical cultivators or combinations of. If we can design driverless cars with camera technology that identifies objects and people and hazards, terrain with accuracy, we can apply that to farm implements that piggy backs on existing machinery, such as planters and cultivators that REDUCES passes through the field and completely eliminates the need for all chemical weed controls.

If we can’t get initial production costs down enough to make the devices, or machinery affordable or able to be retrofit to existing cultivators for example, if they must be their own stand alone implements, either way, then we need an emphasis on getting regional co ops set up across the country, (which could also be elevators with seed sales) where farmers can access shared equipment, rentals.

I don’t think most people are aware of how bad weed pressures are in certain regions of the midwest. Farmers on the coasts don’t have anywhere near the same weed pressure those in tge middle of the country have.

Tackle that problem with cost effective alternatives, and get organic elevators set up at least 1 in every state with a goal of an elevator 100 miles apart from each other all over the heartland, this alleviates the huge expense for organic farmers, and buyers, and ultimately adds to cost prohibitive proce points to consumers to truck harvested grain, often times clear across the country to a buyer. remove subsidies. Remove the over regulation on meat processing, so there can be a resurgence of small town meat lockers. Interest free government loans for agri business,

watch the country convert.

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I absolutely agree with most of what you posted. I also agree with ‘some’ of what I saw in that video. The Kiss the Ground documentary was a 30 thousand foot level approach to dispell the hoax of what the elite claim is the issue - WRONG - frikin IDIOTS all. I will stand on the FOCUS of the video, while we all focus on what is needed right here/right now/going forward. That is get off Big Ag chem ferts/GMO seeds/insecticides and weed killers/all POISON, as the solutions arise. I believe education is needed and we CAN do this IMHO. The Innovative solutions are ready to come to light, and others acomin!

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Watch and send to your farmer bud. This is good stuff:

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Organic stuff in the US doesn’t meet organic labels in other countries. Just saying. Our standards are lax now with all the profiteering.

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Agree, I have noticed this in the EU. However, just like here, REGEN is a movement there, going away from the hardline of organic certifications. Regen farming/growing has shown to have better results and is widely accepted by customers in Spain/Italy and eastern EU. My friend, Dr Tom Dykstra, is showing/testing/proving how important BRIX is. Our HyO technologies equipment does just that/jacks up the BRIX, among other things!

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I have family members that have all certified organic acres. Their biggest concern is the U.S. importing “certified organic” commodities. Rather than buying from U.S. growers.

Why is this happening? I don’t know

How is this legal? I don’t know.

Turns out the imports weren’t actually organic. And how could there be any oversight or checks and balances on foriegn commodities other than extensive probe tests on that incoming grain. All semi trailers of organic grain is probed 3 times. How was this not done on imports? And why are we buying commodities from foriegn countries instead of our own farmers?

These types of policies only further muddy the waters and foster confusion in the still under educated publics mind that incubate doubts that “organic really isn’t organic”.

Which further hangs organic farmers out to dry. Drives domestic bushel prices down. Prevents all local infrastructures, such as community buying and selling centers and locations, SUCH AS ELEVATORS & LOCKERS, etc. The readily available access to alternative mechanical machinery from ever taking off and being established, etc. This is partially a response to highlight problems with organic. I think it’s a great program with minimal government costs/oversight. There are strict rules, but some of them can be broken such as if there’s a drought and you can’t get organic hay to feed your organic herd of cows, you can in an emergency feed your animals with an uncertified hay. This kind of thing leads to dumb rumors that there’s no such thing as organic. That these emergency loopholes are being exploited all the time. It’s just not the case. There’s a lot of paperwork organic farmers have to fill out each year, save all their seed bag tags, keep a list of all their inputs. Subject to inspections.

This is just a general statement, not a response to Schmitty. I’ll include it here, because I don’t know where else to post it.

I’ll tell you exactly what it is. The farmers growing organics is shrinking. Those markets aren’t being supported in market price per bushel, how is conventional corn and beans selling for more per bushel than organics? Really let that one sink in. Is everyone too siloed or too polite to say this? I’m not.

For those that have enough IQ points to rub together, listen up.

The food gurus, they are good at messaging, research, big data, pro tips on health and lifestyle, and then tend towards going big on “the environment”. Catering towards the religious philosophical lefty version of community so many in the food movement are about. Skipping over the biggest polluters in the middle of the country. And look, I’ve already expressed my disdain for both the left, AND the last of conventional farm generations that are going to be able to farm the same old poisonous way.

Those who have been involved in the food movement for any length of time, and have high IQ understand this is fundamentally NOT a political issue, by that I mean the HEALTH of our nations citizens regardless of what ever area of the country they reside is truly a bipartisan issue.

BUT AT EVERY TURN our mutual enemies regardless of whatever side of the aisle you identify with in the uniparty that controls the US, POLITICIZE this issue.

Example. The middle of the country has been and still are decieved and trapped by the shiny gmo/Chem tech. You have to admit the malevolence of the mad genius of big ag WITH THE AMBIVELANCE AND ASSISTENCE AND CORRUPTION OF THE GOVERNMENT ON FEDERAL AND STATE LEVELS to completely hijack and drive an entire industry over a cliff and all but seal their and our fate.

And for all my efforts, you can’t shame them, you on average can’t educate them, can’t appeal to their consciences, you can’t appeal to their morality or ethics, even if they have them, they got fooled, and trapped by their own decisions, and that industry as we all know has spent billions of dollars seeing to it that each farmer remains steeped in their propaganda and under their spell, BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. And I honestly don’t have any remaining empathy sympathy or forgiveness for anyone employed by big ag, or the farmers that are their slaves. But if there is ANYONE in that equation worth giving a shit about, or given a benefit of the doubt to, it’s the farmers, and maybe some of the native US citizen land owners.

That said, the shiny savior of gmo agriculture looks like it’s finally beginning to lose its shine. My attitude is get smart, convert, or get out. And if you have to get out and sell, fuck you. Get out of the way so we can get good stewards of the resource in place. You might have been a great capitalist, but you’re a failure at ethics and stewardship. Get out.

For those that remain they will be like newborns, having to learn to walk for the first time. Learning all the things they arrogantly dismissed or forgot from dad and grandpa and all the previous generations of wisdom prior to the gmo takeover.

Now the gurus dismiss the whole center of the country and really won’t touch any of the practical issues that rural America faces. Why? Because they don’t want to bore their audiences of aging hippie boomers, and urban hipsters who already have their ethics, and healthy lifestyles in place. Your urban hipsters, and coastal leftists already have full access to whole foods, farmers markets, csa’s and have incomes that allow them to participate in clean healthy food systems. All that’s left for them to do, along with Hollywood is pontificate, and rhapsodize and virtue signal the ultimate loyalty test about the global “environment”. Which feminely shames and dismisses everyone that doesn’t pass their environment worship filter test.

And I’m not sure many on the left are concious of how THIS is how THEY are politicizing, REPOLITISIZING from their end, what is really not a political issue… it’s a HEALTH issue.

The left is being manipulated just like rural conservative American farmers are and were.

Our mutual enemy of monsanto, (and I’m going to exaggerate here for humor), they took the greatest generation, and boomer generation of rural farmers who went from burning their old used tires, and throwing their old user car batteries in the creek out back, and you were just a good thrifty american to do so, to convincing them that gmo’s were no different that what they were already planting, and that the chems that just so happen to go along with them were safe.

There was a shift at that point. There were a lot of older established farmers that didn’t buy into gmo, and continued farming the old ways. But they all eventually had to retire, and they eventually were replaced by sons, nephews that were all in on gmo. Or sold the farm to someone who was expanding their gmo operation, and moved to town.

Is it it too far fetched to consider that it wasn’t that difficult for Monsanto to hijack agriculture on the basis of safety? Not to mention NO MORE WEEDS! Libtards can never relate to driving down the highway in your town car admiring all the nice even weed free sea of crop tops. After years of really really hard manual work to get similar results. After a while that Monsanto product sold itself. Is it any wonder. And just like the introduction of mrna “vaccines” that were “safe & effective”, and you must get yours today, …we were all caught flat footed. Scrambling after the fact to catch up to “the science”. But it’s taken DECADES to expose the malice and corruption of monsanto and the government comparatively.

All monsanto ever had to do to keep farmers on board is keep repeating the mantra that gmo’s were “safe and effective”. As I said, the products sold themselves, farmers could SEE that they were effective, but safety is an immediate proximity HEALTH issue.

But by all means keep making it about the environment, which guarantees the right will dismiss and argue against claims made, and enables the left to take an imaginary high road, which also enables them to dismiss the right. Enables the left to politicize a non political issue, why? Because let’s face it, are the left specifically concerned with the HEALTH of the entire population? Or do they want to insist on reserving that concern for those that pass their political filter? Being concerned about HEALTH doesn’t allow for the dehumanization of political enemies. Concern for the environment rather, does.

My grandfather never made the switch to gmo’s. He continued farming another 15 years or so after all of his neighbors eventually converted to gmo’s. he never had to contend with super weeds, but it wasn’t easy. He stuck to his guns, while everyone else’s operations became more convenient. I witnessed all of it. I watched the natural ostrasization that occurs when you suddenly have not that much to discuss with your neighbors and peers, because they are all actually doing something different and “progressive”. You no longer relate on many things other than the weather, and fuel prices, no longer engaged in similar ventures, and every conversation is an implicitly hostile competition comparison about yields per acre. And funny jokes like “how many acres of weeds are you growing this year?” Had to be lonely after a while to know things were changing for ill, and not going to correct in his lifetime. I’m proud of him. He died before I knew anything about what was going on in agriculture to tell him.

He was always a clean shaven man. For his town’s sesquicentenial he decided to grow a beard. He was among many of the farmers who drove their tractors down the mainstreet parade. My grandma hated the beard. Too bushy and scratchy when they kissed, she said. To which he responded, “sometimes you have to go through the briars and the brambles to get to the picnic.”

So, where’s the picnic?

The left who think of themselves as holding the moral high ground, who are just as manipulated by the falsely high and noble POLITICAL rhetoric of ENVIRONMENT. They want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to jam the middle of the country with all the other leftist social issues and platforms the right is never going to accept, so…they refuse to make it about HEALTH which is the truly bipartisan angle, because if the left makes it about HEALTH, then they have to put aside ALL the other bullshit partisan social issues that have nothing to do with food, and they’d have to CARE about the center of the country, AND THE PEOPLE that live there. And they really don’t, and don’t want to have to, they’d rather continue to make it about the ENVIRONMENT, which enables them to condescend and dismiss those they are politically opposed to in every way. RATHER than remove just ONE of the many axes they want to grind against the right, and let go of this NON POLITICAL issue, they can’t bring themselves to stop dismissing the center of the country, as stupid, and evil. And so this rescue mission of the resource and produce from this region for decades longer than it should, has not been undertaken, and remains locked behind mutual enemy lines. because leftists care about their own vanity and virtue signaling than people and HEALTH of ALL people, which correct me if I’m wrong IS part of the environment. And it’s really symptomatic of the widening gulf between the percieved parties. There ARE vast differences, don’t get me wrong, but food and HEALTH is not one of them in that they are both a burden to us all if we all don’t have good HEALTH and good food.

If leftists can’t bring themselves to care about ALL PEOPLE & HEALTH of those they are politically opposed to, then where is the concern for the resource of land in the country’s center? And see this is the crux of it. Can you really have one and not the other? Making it about HEALTH enables even the most nastiest of liberals, and the most indifferent redneck to care about PEOPLE. By making it about the ENVIRONMENT enables ongoing, never ending dismissiveness on BOTH SIDES. How many more decades are we going to waste force applying politics to THIS issue?

The values of the right and the left are NEVER going to align, or be the same on anything. The war between both parties will continue and probably get worse. But both sides ought to be able to see at this point how they both got played, and continue to be played, and prevented from finding commonality, and just this once, on this one issue, this truly non partisan issue cease to persist in mutually assured destruction of our nations HEALTH. DON’T EVEN HAVE TO COME TOGETHER! I DON’T WANT TO SING KUMBAYA WITH ANYONE! We are not GOING to be friends. Let’s just put this one fire out. Just this one. Then we can go back to hating each other’s guts, and resume the culture war. HOOAH? HEALTH IN. ENVIRONMENT OUT.

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I think we need to demand strict adherence to standards of food quality and production. We should redefine what it means to be truly Organic. Our main sources of healthy food should not be at a sacrifice for quality. Get junk food away from the healthy foods.

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How about we support AMERICA FIRST! US growers instead of foriegn countries first?

When “organic” corn and beans imports came to the US last year, I know of a coop of organic farmers that disbanded, and 13 members dropped to 2, so 11 of the 13 quit growing organics all together and went back to growing gmos. 2 continue growing organics because they are committed to principles, but that’s hard to do when conventional corn is at $6, and organic is at $4 per bushel.

How is it the US cares more about wasting time fixing Haiti’s problems, fixing Mexico 's coffee trade, to make sure everyone in Mexico is growing organics and being compensated fairly…so we can all feel warm ethical fuzziness, when we hold our coffee cups, and we can get ALL kinds of Marijuana products produced and legalized and prioritized in farm bills and state houses, legislatures, but we’re literally going to be LAST PLACE, the last country on the planet to fix our food and agriculture system, and those struggling to farm the right way in America in organics will be the LAST to experience a turnaround. It’s truly AMAZING.

This is really a must see for anyone wanting to see the next move of food system corruption.

Notice how the word used to spellcast by poison agriculture industry is “ENVIRONMENT”…

Notice how when the word environment is used in the media it doesn’t generate debate and discussion, it generates adherants to the religion it appeals to, and dismissal by those it doesn’t appeal to POLITICALLY. HEALTH is not a political issue, which is why I think covid lies are being actively broken down much faster, than corruption in food systems.

I hope veterans of the food movement here watch this latest podcast by Darkhorse, about Bovaer, and ask yourself who is going to be fooled by the marketing campaign for Bovaer? Which was just approved by our shitbags at FDA. Endorsed by Bill Gates.

That’s why I think the focus needs to be on HEALTH rather than environment. Our mutual enemies can hide behind the word and get wins and fleece the public using the ENVIRONMENT to do it for another 20 years, and we’ll always be in the wake of the damage, rather than out front stopping it. It enables the virtue signaling narcissistic FEELINGS driven left to externalize people and health, and certainly externalizing those they don’t politically align with, from the equation FOR, in their mind the more noble value or priority of the environment.

My argument is a healthy environment is a symptomatic biproduct of HEALTHY people…

We have endured rhetoric about the ENVIRONMENT for 60 years, and we are more unhealthy than ever. But adherence to this false ideal is stronger than ever.

Pay special attention to minute mark 39:45 - 50:00 and this is the same method of violating the public trust is how WE THE PEOPLE continue to be fooled. Didn’t we just encounter these violations of public trust wirh the vax?

The liars also happen to be the financial beneficiaries from violations of public trust. They should be legally liable for harms imposed.

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[https://hydrogenbiology.org/applications/agriculture/]

Real Science

Nifty. Sounds like yet another tech utopian Babylonia golden calf to worship. The definition of cult is loyalty before, and required before truth.

Meanwhile organic producers continue to struggle from a lack of AMERICA FIRST policy on imports. And a lack of support and promotion which includes education of nationally produced commodities. Organic commodity farmers are not included and do not benefit in the bourgeois trends to supprt local markets, and are being undercut by disinformation that organic isn’t really organic bs.

Once again the folks doing things the clean way, the right way are not acknowledged and are not supported, while money and attention that could be used to support these markets are now going to be redirected to the creation of a new golden idol. Forgive me if I don’t share your enthusiasm without knowing what it is, what the practical applications are, who benefits, and what if any are the hidden costs or harms may be, health wise and economically.

I really think you ought to fully digest the darkhorse podcast #253 and adopt this temperance to climate religious fervor, and realize that many Americans suffer and are left out in the cold who are actually doing things the right way, and because this is happening for such a long duration, that many are actually LEAVING and giving up on organics in the very regions of the country that conversions TO organics are needed most, and going back to growing gmo in order to make a living, simply because organics is getting such negative support. We need an AMERICA FIRST policy when it comes to US agriculture. Period.

Hydrogen and Oxygen are organic/adds to what organic farmers do and fight for, while making them MUCH more profitable. Regen and organic are symbiotic to each other in so many ways, as well. Someday soon, I expect the harsh guidelines/restrictions on organic farmers will drastically change for the better. Add this to AMERICA FIRST polices, and we are huge winners - acomin! Golden Age is what I see!

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Here’s a policy proposal to address this:

:point_right: Reclaiming the Soil Commons for Health, Sovereignty, and Sustainability