Eliminate the Electoral College

Reform the election process to eliminate the Electoral College and institute a popular voting system.

The principle of “one person, one vote” is a cornerstone of democratic governance. However, the Electoral College violates this principle by giving disproportionate influence to voters in smaller states and swing states. Under the current system, a vote cast in a small state such as Wyoming carries more weight than a vote cast in a populous state like California. This disparity arises because each state’s electoral votes are based on its total number of senators and representatives, meaning smaller states have outsized influence relative to their populations.
In a popular vote system, every vote would carry equal weight, regardless of the voter’s location. The winner of the presidency would be the candidate who secures the most votes across the entire nation, ensuring that each citizen’s vote counts equally. This reform would eliminate the skewing of influence that the Electoral College currently perpetuates, making the election results more reflective of the actual will of the people.

One of the most problematic features of the Electoral College is its focus on a handful of swing states—those with an unpredictable partisan balance. In every presidential election, candidates disproportionately focus their time, resources, and policies on a few battleground states such as Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. Meanwhile, voters in reliably red or blue states are often ignored, as their states are seen as already decided.
A popular vote system would encourage presidential candidates to campaign nationwide, not just in swing states. Every vote would matter equally, so candidates would be incentivized to appeal to a broader spectrum of Americans, leading to more inclusive and representative governance. Voters in traditionally “safe” states would finally have more of a voice in determining the outcome of the election.

Under the Electoral College, it is possible for a candidate to win the presidency without winning the popular vote. When a candidate wins the Electoral College but loses the popular vote, it raises concerns about democratic legitimacy, as a president is elected who does not represent the choice of the majority of voters. A popular vote system would prevent this from happening, as the candidate with the most votes nationwide would always win. This ensures that the president is chosen by a true majority or plurality of voters, aligning the outcome with the democratic principle of majority rule.

The Electoral College can discourage voter participation, particularly in states that are solidly Democratic or Republican. In these states, many voters feel that their votes don’t matter, as the outcome in their state is seen as predetermined. As a result, voter turnout in non-swing states can be lower, weakening democratic engagement. A popular vote system would give every voter a reason to participate, as every vote would count equally in the national tally. This could lead to higher voter turnout nationwide, strengthening the overall democratic process and fostering a more engaged electorate.

In conclusion, reforming the U.S. presidential voting system from the Electoral College to a popular vote is a vital step toward ensuring fairness, equality, and democratic legitimacy. A popular vote system would better reflect the will of the American people, enhance voter participation, reduce the disproportionate influence of swing states, and ensure that the president is truly the choice of the majority. It is time for the U.S. to modernize its election process and move toward a system that more accurately embodies the democratic ideals upon which the nation was founded.

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Pretty sure this is anti-constitution. The U.S. is not a democracy, but a republic.

People’s votes do count currently, if you have enough votes in your area, that person is elected, it’s really simple. This one needs a down vote.

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Throughout its history, the US has expanding democratic participation through constitutional amendments (15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th). The idea behind these amendments was to move closer to fulfilling democratic ideals by promoting greater political equality (one person, one vote). Considering that the Electoral College discourages voter participation, this proposed change would effectively expand democratic participation by creating more voter equality.

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If the electoral college is eliminated, the East and West Coasts would have all the say in the elections. The population of the coasts = 178,389,375; the rest of the country = 157,124,520
I live in the Midwest and I am quite certain that my political and social views are significantly different than those who live in big cities and on the coasts.

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Each person in all of these regions would have equal power. One person in NY would have the same voting power as one person in Nebraska. Considering also how close the elections have been in recent history, the candidates from each party will have to work just as hard in all regions to satisfy the demands of all demographics created by the different regions.

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I have to agree, while the idea has appeal on the surface my true concern is not having the liberal thinking of our very few largest cities determine the fate of the other thousands of small cities and towns.

The word democracy always seems to be thrown around with this idea, yet never the truth…we are a Republic, not a Democracy. A true democracy has never worked in the countries it has been attempted. It becomes MOB rule, or “what’s in it for me”, rather than what is best overall for the people over the long run.

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I would like to hear more discussion on the original purpose behind the electoral college. Does anyone have any research on what the founding fathers intended with this design?

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I recently read a booklet called “The Electoral College: Critical to our Republic” published by Turning Point USA.

Pulling it off my shelf and trying to give a summary, the proposal of the Electoral College came after multiple rounds of discussion about how to elect the President. Early on, there was first consideration of using a Parliamentary system, then came a proposal for a popular vote, both of which were voted down.

The Electoral College eventually came about as a compromise system that helped feed into a separation of powers in a balance between a Republic and a Democracy. Originally, the full intent of this system came from an expectation that the public might not know much about who was running for President, but they could elect “Electors” who would in turn make more informed decisions about who should be President.

So ironically, the Founding Fathers actually intended for all Electors to be free to vote for whoever they wanted rather than being bound to a predetermined candidate - basically serving as a separate kind of US Congress that existed entirely for the purpose of electing the US President, but a mini-Congress that Senators and Congressmen were prohibited from serving on in order to prevent the President from being bound to the will of Congress (as in a Parliamentary system like the UK and such).

Even if the system has moved away from the Founders intent, much of the core intended elements are still there and still (mostly) keeping the country from descending into the mob rule or unbalanced system the Founding Fathers were trying to avoid.

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If one believes that the Electoral Colledge needs to go one would also demand that the Senate be dissolved. The Constitution was finally ratified by the Great Compromise that allowed equal treatment in some form for the smaller states . Each state is sovereign to some degree. The smaller states will never agree to an amendment that would make them irrelevant

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I have noticed that these Deep State sympathizers use Democracy and Marxism interchangeably. An informed Patriot is revealed quickly when they use Republic where others use Democracy.

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America is not a democracy nor has it ever been one. The Founders knew and spoke of the dangers of ‘tyranny of the majority’ during the Constitutional Convention. Madison, in particular, noted that democracies exist for only a short time, historically, and they always end in oceans of blood. Let’s not repeat bloody history, shall we?

America would not exist without the Electoral College, which was conceived as a check on tyranny by large states over small ones. Policies that would have caused the American union to have never existed can be rightly called un-American, which is the case with opponents of the EC.

The 17th Amendment is one of many 20th Century democratizing efforts that has tangibly harmed the republic. More democracy is evil, it is brutish and primitive, it is ‘two wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for lunch.’ Alexander Hamilton expressed completely uncontroversial thoughts about democracy during the Constitutional Convention:

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Without the EC, there would be no USA. Democratic popular vote was raised as a possibility during the Constitutional Convention but was 100% rejected. Other means of electing the president, e.g. Congress decides, were proposed, but smaller, less populous states realized that they would be subject to the tyranny of larger states if that happened. The small states were absolutely against that. The Founders rejected all of the other suggestions and settled on the EC as a way to mitigate tyranny of the mob that would inevitably happen under the various democratic means of electing the president.

This situation is made worse in modern times, with Democrats dedicated to protecting their corrupt voter rolls, including registered voters who are dead, illegal and legal aliens, people registered in multiple jurisdictions, dozens of people living at non-existent addresses, etc.

Consider Texas recently eliminated 1 million ineligible voters after a reasonable audit. Or the Biden (D) DOJ actually suing Virginia for purging illegal aliens from voter rolls. Democrat enthusiasm for the popular vote is solely based on their majority of voters, which takes a big hit when the corruption is cleaned out. You can bet that Dems would be 100% opposed to presidential popular vote if our elections were free of corruption and their “majority” disappeared.

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To the consternation of Democrats, Texas recently removed 1 million ineligible voters from their rolls. Biden’s DOJ is suing VA for removing illegal aliens from its registered voter rolls. When Trump tried to get the states onboard with the notion of cleaning up voter rolls, as Texas did, Dem-controlled states refused to participate.

The Democrat popular majority is a corrupt mirage. A dead person, non-citizen alien, or person also registered to vote in MA, CT, and in NY should not have the same voting power as an honest American citizen and taxpayer in Nebraska. The closeness of modern elections is a direct product of corruption.

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Possibly more time should be spent educating Americans in the differences between Constitutional Republic v Democracy. The arguments that I usually see for this talk about how it’s not democratic to utilize the Electoral College are so confusing. It’s like saying it’s not warm to run your air conditioner. The two have different goals entirely? The fact that someone may WISH that the U.S. was a straight democracy does not change the fact that according to our Constitution, it is not a straight democracy. When the states entered into an agreement to become a union, these are the rules to which they agreed. It is legally binding.

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I absolutely dont want this. I do not want people in california and new york controling the entire country.

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no we need the electoral college Pretty sure this is anti-constitution. The U.S. is not a democracy, but a republic.

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Absolutely not! Each state is like its own country we are united for the common defense and trade, each state is kind of so large we have our own geography we know what we need in each state better than other states know for us. Florida does not know what Alaskan needs neither does California or New York and Alaska doesn’t know what they need. So absolutely not because nobody’s vote would count for president except for California and New York.

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Doing that would allow only 3 states to rule over 50 and violates the agreement states signed with the Union when joining so each state would have fair representation. They didn’t want states who have a lot of people ruling over a state with less people over a wide land mass.

The number of House Reps per state is based on the Census which is based on the number of people in the State. Senators are two per State.

So the argument to abolish the electoral college doesn’t hold water and the electoral college IS designated in the Constitution.

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This tells you a lot about how that all came down.

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We are NOT a democracy. America was never intended to be a democracy. Why? Because the longest democracy that existed in history lasted one generation before societal callapse. You cannot not exist as a society being dictated by the mob.

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