Fine, I will support your right to have the most diverse medical team performing your open heart surgery. Hope that works out for you.
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Marie, is diversity INCOMPATIBLE with merit, quality or excellence?
I just googled:
āThere are roughly 45,000 cardiothoracic surgeons in the United States. The majority of these surgeons are men, with an average age of 56 years.ā
Whites are 76%.
"Aside from the inherent benefits of a diverse, inclusive, and socially just environment, correcting the physician diversity gap leads to improved patient care. Patients report improved satisfaction with their healthcare when they are treated by a same-ethnicity provider.
Same-ethnicity physicians may engage patients and their family using shared cultural context and language better than physicians from different ethnicities.
Same-ethnicity physicians can also provide cultural insight and perhaps education to the entire care team, which may improve patient compliance.
Underrepresented minority physicians are also more likely to care for minority patient populations
Therefore, closing diversity gaps within the medical community may help alleviate racial disparities as the US population continues to diversify.
So the point LITERALLY IS, minority physicians IMPROVE CARE for those populations. HOW ON EARTH WOULD THESE RESULTS EVER BE CONSIDERED A BAD THING MARIE?
Youāre NOT assuming INCOMPETENT people are being advanced, are you? Having more experts is actually needed. We need more doctors. Are you thinking their education is inadequate? Where is the bias? I cannot identify a logical, non-racial reason to be biased.
Merit is fine! 2 meritous qualified candidates, if you have patients of color and no physician of color, then hire the QUALIFIED PHYSICIAN OF COLOR.
That, in a nutshell, is DEI. Whatever weird distorted and poisoned version you believe it is, is so disappointingly predictable.
āMerit is fine! 2 meritous qualified candidates, if you have patients of color and no physician of color, then hire the QUALIFIED PHYSICIAN OF COLOR.
That, in a nutshell, is DEI. Whatever weird distorted and poisoned version you believe it is, is so disappointingly predictable.ā
DEI is poison. There is not version of it that does not discriminate based on immutable characteristics.
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Kim, would you explain to me your understanding of the origins of DEI? Who were the people who brought it into our universities and institutions? What were their motives?
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Cite the research that supports diversity of skin color/gender/etc improves any outcome. Explain the statistical analyses to me.
I will wait.
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where were you during segregation?you would have been a big help in ending it.
Answer: Merit, quality and excellence are descriptions of measurements on some defined scale that rates something or someone, either because of performance or innate characteristic. Since there is a scale, the things being measured will range from high to low on the scale.
I submit that you are simply substituting a characteristic - skin color - as your measurement of what constitutes merit.
I will never agree to that as a just, fair method of rewarding peopleās effort.
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African Americans make up about 14% of students at White undergraduate Universities, many are Athletes. African Americans make up only about 6% of Law and Medical Students so looking at real numbers DEI is actually not that effective. But it is a great political tool.
African Americans make up 14% of students at white undergrad colleges and about 6% of law and Medical School Students. Affirmative action is not as effective as you think. Also hundreds of years of segregation has created the present income inequalities in America
Eliminating DEI should span across all industriesā¦not simply the medical field. DEI is a communist tool to sow division and weaken an adversarial country. It is a plague to any nation state; and it is used by traitors within the power centers of a country to implode it from within over time. Anyone pushing DEI should be seriously investigated for treasonous activity. It is a weapon of war in fifth generation warfare. Plain and simple. It should be rooted out of Americaās institutions pronto, if we are ever to become āGreat Againā.
I have tried to be open to DEI. I have researched, and watched the videos intended to educate about DEI.
My first question was, how do we know if a DEI policy has been successful? What are the metrics?
These metrics included the diversity of your staff. One of the policies used the word mediocre. It indicated bias involved in hiring practices. As we all have learned, Mediocre has become synonymous with white. Furthermore, many policies has quotas.
Who could forget the DEI class on how to be less white in the work place? The traits listed could have been labeled any number of things, but instead white was the word of choice.
We have politicians saying things such as āIām sick of the white tears,ā and this is seen as perfectly okay.
What does this have to do with DEI? Everything.
The most college educated demographic is women of color. Why is that? Is it because they are simply smarter or is it because of the unearned advantages afforded to them as a double minority? Why is it a white child can grow up in the same impoverished conditions as a black child, but equity doesnāt consider the white child in its equation. Thatās a fact.
Racism is about the belief that one race of people are superior to another. I am aware of CRT version of racism but I reject it. When you have elevated a group of people because of their race, it is racism. It isnāt equality. Equity in this regard is a mask for racism.
Furthermore, DEI doesnāt look at people individually. It groups people by their race, gender, gender identity, sexuality, and whatever label is in style at the moment. By focusing on characteristics of oneās identity you have stripped them of their individuality.
I appreciate that you recognize your own bias and felt DEI was helpful in that way. However, you are assuming that everyone else is like you. Itās about oneās perception. You assume that others are being excluded due to aforementioned traits. You assume that there is some kind of conspiracy in which white people are trying to control everything. I suggest you quit projecting your own shadows onto others. What you may think, feel, or me motivated by, doesnāt mean everyone else that is white is like you.
I do think there are certain cases in which things such as gender are important. An example was listed in a prior comment. That example was in rape cases. Women should be available in such cases. Which brings me to my next point.
No one is excluding trans women. They are welcome to work alongside anyone or any where they choose. However, on the prior example, a trans woman would not be an acceptable substitute. It isnāt about disliking trans people. Trans women can believe they are women but they are way out of line and crossing boundaries with no care for who they affect.
It is individuals such as yourself that are the white supremacists because you believe that minorities need you to give them special treatment to achieve. Itās insulting. They donāt need you. Let them live their lives and quit forcing everyone into your little boxes.
Have you questioned any of the talking points you referenced? If you havenāt, then you have been indoctrinated.