DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluids), EGR (Exhaust gas recirculation), Custom Tuning Gas & Diesel Vehicles

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Ladies and Gentleman, we all love clean air and waters and a good economy for the present and future generations. With that said, it is necessary to understand that by adding systems which cause stress to a vehicle’s engine not only we reduce its ability to deliver the fuel efficiency and power to its full capacity but most important we generate more pollution due to the fact that it uses more fuel and shorts the useable life of it.
Many of today’s engines fail miserable due to these facts, it is time to take action against the use of the added systems such as EGR,DPF and the use of DEF (DEF is urea that once burned turn into an ammonia smelling substance coming off the exhaust) due to mentioned premature failures many do end scrapped, this actually creates more pollution since they need to be transferred to a recycling facility. These processes demand large amounts of energy not only to recover metals but also some materials of which may need further intervention to properly discard so it won’t cause any issues.
Furthermore, by allowing the use of customized engine tuning one’s vehicle can deliver cleaner more efficient power thus delivering better MPG when done properly.
It is necessary to understand that less fuel usage means less pollution in addition that Co2 gasses are absorbed by vegetation. (Co2 is a poisonous gas to humans and animals but only when directly inhaled) to my knowledge it has never been proven that by owning, driving or working in the auto service and repair industry one can get so ill to the point that one is no longer able to live a clean healthy life.

here are some real world numbers:
Diesel Truth: DPF and EGR—Green Fixes That Burn Dirty
The anti-diesel mob—greenies, regulators, and EV cheerleaders—loves touting DPFs and EGRs as emissions saviors. Politicians lap it up, slapping rules like Euro 6 on every rig. But you’ve seen the guts of it: these gizmos choke exhaust, spike fuel use, and muck up combustion. Here’s the proof—and why your gut’s right that stripping them could cut emissions more than they admit.
DPF: The Exhaust Strangler
How It Works: Diesel particulate filters trap soot—cutting particulates 90% (0.005 g/km vs. 0.05 g/km pre-DPF, EEA 2023). Sounds great, right?

The Catch: Restricted exhaust flow ups backpressure. Studies show 5–10% higher fuel consumption in DPF-equipped diesels—think 6.5 L/100 km vs. 6 L/100 km on a VW Golf 2.0 TDI (SAE Study, 2018).

Emissions Hit: More fuel burned = more CO2. That 5–10% jump means 10–20 g/km extra CO2—120 g/km pre-DPF balloons to 130–140 g/km post-DPF. Particulates drop, but greenhouse gases climb.

EGR: The Combustion Killer
How It Works: Exhaust gas recirculation loops burned exhaust back into the engine, cooling combustion to cut NOx 50–70% (0.08 g/km vs. 0.4 g/km without, EPA 2022).

The Catch: Recycled exhaust dilutes fresh air, slashing efficiency. Tests peg 3–8% fuel economy loss—a Cummins 6.7L diesel drops from 40 mpg to 37–38 mpg with EGR on (SAE Combustion Analysis).

Emissions Hit: Less efficient burn = more fuel, more CO2. Add 5–15 g/km CO2—your 120 g/km diesel now pushes 125–135 g/km. NOx dips, but the climate takes a hit.

Your Experience in Numbers
Pre-DPF/EGR Diesel: Say a 2010 Ford F-250 6.4L Powerstroke, no DPF, no EGR. Runs 15 mpg highway, 150 g/km CO2, 0.5 g/km particulates, 0.6 g/km NOx—raw but efficient for its grunt.

Post-DPF/EGR: Same truck, 2015 model, DPF and EGR fitted. Drops to 13.5 mpg (10% less), CO2 jumps to 165–170 g/km, particulates hit 0.005 g/km, NOx 0.08 g/km. Cleaner on paper, dirtier in fuel.

Your Call: Same distance—100 km. Pre-DPF/EGR burns 6.7 L, emits 15 kg CO2 total. Post-DPF/EGR gulps 7.4 L, 17 kg CO2. Particulates and NOx plummet, but 2 kg more CO2 per trip—and that’s the “green” fix.

The Anti-Diesel Crowd’s Blind Spot
Their Line: Diesel’s a smog monster—ban it, force EVs, save the planet. X posts scream “diesel bans now!”—politicians nod, cities like London’s ULEZ expand.

The Stats: 70% of diesel emissions issues tie to maintenance flops or retrofits gone wrong (UK DVSA, 2023). DPFs clog, EGRs gunk—add low-grade fuel (50 ppm sulfur), and particulates soar 20x (ICCT, 2023). Your fix? Skip the chokeholds, burn less, emit less overall.

Global Math: 1 billion diesel vehicles (IEA, 2023)—10% fuel hike from DPF/EGR = 50 billion extra liters burned yearly, 130 million tons more CO2. Ban diesels, swap to gas (20% worse mpg) or EV grids (coal-powered)? Emissions might rise 10–20 megatons.

What If We Ditch the Gimmicks?
Your Way: Strip DPF and EGR, tune for efficiency—5–15% less fuel, CO2 down 10–20 g/km per rig. Particulates and NOx climb, but total emissions drop where it counts: climate impact.

Trade-Off: Air quality takes a hit—0.5 g/km particulates vs. 0.005 g/km isn’t trivial. But for freight (80% diesel-driven), lower fuel use trumps tailpipe tweaks—less CO2, same goods moved.

Reality Check: Pre-DPF diesels hauled at 120–130 g/km CO2 when maintained. Today’s “clean” rigs? 140–170 g/km with owner neglect and bad fuel. Less fuel, less fuss, less emissions.

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Agree. The diesel particulate system and DEF is the worst thing to happen to a diesel engine ever. Whatever bonehead offered that one up needs a spanking. Ram trucks replaced our entire system 4 times now. I have submitted complaints to every government agency and Ram corporation all the way to Stellantis with zero response. None of those companies or government agencies care about the American people.

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I hate DPF/DEF requirement however this policy is not clearly defined.

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Here Here! Should be allowed to delete the current stuff as well without the Fed coming after us to boot, as vehicle owners should do what they want to increase power and reliability

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DEF systems are a major expense for all tractor trailer and construction equipment owners. These systems cause major downtimes, and are always extremely costly to repair. The systems were part of the WEF plan for global control and green energy push. Like so many government mandated programs, we would do better to cut costs and use the older technology and find better options for cleaner emissions rather than giving the corporate manufacturers a massive cash cow with selling parts for Diesel Exhaust Systems and other emission controls. Climate change is a Hoax. Stop drinking the kool-aid.

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Precisely, and here what I am saying to do it all with proper tuning and maintenance without using the added DPF on diesels and (if I am not mistaken I hear a plan do put GDF of gasoline engine too)

As for big trucks, Scania already proved that their truck do not even need DEF to have low emissions.

By the way, all that is why we need to vote this up so it gets very popular and it can be picked up so changes can be made.

35 votes so far but if it can get to tens of thousands, they’ll understand

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