Death Felony System (Death Penalty)

Liberty
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We all know the death penalty has to be brought back; however, I don’t see any proposal with structure to prevent another Salem Witch Trial. I will attempt to do so here.

Summary:
I call this the Death Felony System because it leads to a Death Penalty without immediately resulting in a Death Penalty.

How it works:
After receiving the third Death Felony Strike, three years later results in the Death Penalty. It is possible to remove a Strike before the three years are up. Removing a Strike will rest the three-year limit timer. Furthermore, the offender can only receive one strike per case.

To remove a Strike, perjury and/or tampering of evidence will result in the strike being transferred to who is at fault for manipulating such evidence.

To receive a Strike, the offender must commit a heinous crime. For example:

  • 1st Degree Murder
  • 2nd Degree Murder
  • Rape
  • Perjury of a Case that Resulted in the Offender Receiving a Strike
  • Treason
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Shouldn’t first degree murder just be death penalty full stop? You are complicating an already complicated issue or are you saying you can commit three murders before anything will be done?

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I would like to agree with your statement; however, we are talking about giving the government the right to kill citizens (even though they are inhuman at this point). We must tread carefully when playing with extremely sharp double-edged swords.

Things we have to think about for this policy:

  • Salem Witch Trail
  • Most states are infinite
  • 1st Degree Murders usually have several victims so they have three years to prove charges are made up.
  • It isn’t uncommon for a brother/father kills a rapist.
  • Having three strikes substantially helps an executor from going insane

Furthermore, after three strikes, there is no reason to be concerned about inhuman death. Heck, I would let the parents be the executor if they want to. In fact, the executor gets to determine how the offender dies anyway. They can use whatever is available or bring in their own weapon of choice. After all, if someone is willing to violate someone’s inalienable rights three times why should we treat them any different⸮ Crime will drop so fast because criminals will never want to face the fury of a father; especially multiple of them.

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I see your point but talk to the parents/ husband/ wife/ children of their first strike victim.
If you get three years to prove innocence. Isn’t that fair enough?
Unless you are literally videoed or openly admit to murder then it should be instant death within a reasonable time say a month /a week?

Or am I missing your meaning of three strikes?

And are you including drunk drivers who kill in this . They willingly choose to drink and drink why should they be excluded?

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The point of Three Strikes is to have three separate cases/events because I don’t trust people just as much as I don’t trust the court system. During the Salem Witch Trial, not only were the courts running corruptly but victims recognized this and abused it. Victims lying today is not as uncommon as you would think.

Here are common examples of victims/offenders lying today:

  • The wife claims the husband raped the children.
  • (Extremely common) College women claiming some guy raped them.
  • Father/Mother lying about a heinous crime their son/daughter committed.

As for why I choose specifically three strikes and three years:

  • Strikes are to represent three separate cases/events to prove there is a consistent pattern.
  • Years are to give time for the possibilities of anomalies.
  • Three is simply a number I choose because in baseball a common phrase is “Three strikes, you are out!”

Anything less than three can easily lead to another Salem Witch Trial. If people would feel more comfortable with 5, you won’t hear me saying no because right now it is infinite. Right now society is like Batman, only punishing the Joker with a slap on the wrist as he kills tens of thousands.

I should mention that a Death Felony will not remove other charges and is an extension of charges. The offender must pay for the crimes of all other charges; however, a Death Felony cannot be stacked in a single case/event/victim.

This is a hard one to stomach but I need to say it. A school mass shooting will only count as one strike, no matter how many victims there are because it was all in the same event; they usually comment suicide anyway so there isn’t much to disagree with there but the thought still sucks. Another example is a woman raped three days in a row or 5 times over a couple of months; it will still count as one strike. If she is raped three wildly different times which results in three different cases because the previous one concluded that will be three strikes.

Maybe later on down the road, we could refine it more; however, we need to keep it as simple as possible so The People will accept something over nothing because parasites do not deserve to live.

Please do not quote me on this, drunk driver kills 8x more people than homicides with a firearm. I don’t know the process of every state, but drunk driving inevitably reaches 2nd Degree Murder, eventually. To answer your question, yes, drunk drivers are included; however, it may not be as immediately as we would like. 3rd Degree Murder is the result of accidentally killing something so there might need to be some refinement there with other laws.

I forgot to mention videos, I would absolutely agree a couple of years ago but AI videos are getting pretty good. I would rather hold back on that. As for admitting to murder, could easily be cover up.

We must keep it as KISS Theory as possible: after maintaining three strikes (heinous crimes) for three years, the death penalty will apply.

Oh, yeah. Another heinous crime is crossing into the United States illegally. It’ll create an incentive for the cartel to never bother with our border again.

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So basically you are giving murderers the free right to kill get a strike go out into society kill again get a strike then go back into society and do nothing about it til they get caught killing for a third time as I understanding that correctly???

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You are not wrong; however, this policy idea it’ll be three instead of infinite. Let us set something rather than nothing and maybe we can get these absolutists to compromise.

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Please explain more the three strike system you mean then

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I am presuming you mean how to get a strike?

Honestly, it doesn’t change anything to the court system besides adding more things they have to account for. It acts similarly to pre-existing crime charges. For example, to be charged with resisting arrest, there has to be a pre-existing crime; otherwise, it gets thrown out as well; however, a Death Felony Strike applies automatically no matter whether the judge wants to give them a light sentence.

For a Death Felony Strike, they will apply for hence crimes only. I am confident everyone can agree on the following as the bare minimum:

  • 1st Degree Murder
  • 2nd Degree Murder
  • Rape/Human Trafficking
  • Perjury of a hence crime case
  • Treason
  • Enter the US illegally

Now that I think about it, I want to include “Grand Theft” because stealing someone’s house or car illegally. I am not sure what it would be called but destroying someone’s home or car to where they are beyond liveable should also be a strike because that’s specifically targeting a man’s investment to destroy him permanently.

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This is what I am struggling understanding. You say a death penalty strike. And listed 1st degree murder. So are you saying you get found guilty of 1st degree murder and a death penalty strike is put on record and you re enter society? You only get consequences when you have 3 death penalty strikes? Or am I missing something?

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Agree with the overall idea. But remove Rape from the list completely or change it to be proven violent rape.

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Absolutely! Furthermore, anyone involved in committing perjury that resulted in someone getting a strike, will receive a strike. Ideally this will end the false allegations of women saying their husband raped her and their children. Too many women get away with this and destroy a man’s life, so society will be better off without stupid drama on serious matters.

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Sorry for taking so long to respond. To clarify, if someone is found guilty of 1st degree murder, they will receive a strike on top of what punishment that is determine by the law. A Death Felony is simple an additional feature to law and order. This does not remove consequence that already exist within the law.