Amnesty and possible path to citizenship for persons illegally in the US now

A suggested solution to minimize cost and maximize effect, if I may. Offer amnesty to any illegal immigrant under the following conditions, for a limited period of time.

  1. That person have no criminal record or pending charges in their country of origin OR in the United States.

  2. That person VOLUNTARILY presents themself for deportation to their home country, transportation of the person and very limited personal effects to be provided by the United States at no cost to the person.

  3. After arrival at their country of origin, that person is eligible to apply through normal channels for legal immigration status without prejudice, to be processed in the same manner and order as everyone else. This will allow a legal pathway to citizenship through the existing laws.

4.After the initial time period, if any person who has not volunteered and is here illegally is apprehended in the United States, they are deported immediately, without recourse, and flagged permanently from reentry.

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No, amnesty rewards lawbreakers. They should not be allowed to come back in once they have broken the law.

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Nope no amnesty either they come in the right way or not come at all.

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The laws that were broken were first broken by the Biden administration in issuing an open invitation to them. These are people, who know that they broke the law “technically” but believed that they were covered. They need to be offered some sort of out just on the basis of fairness. Giving them the chance to self report provides this, as well as making the job of locating them much easier and cheaper for our government to accomplish. Putting an absolute punishment on them after the amnesty period is a heavy incentive to comply. Again, we need people coming in, we just need to control who comes in. We’re going to have to track a lot of them down, and it isn’t going to be cheap or easy, so let’s get the more honest ones out of the way as easy as possible to allow concentration on the really bad element. Pragmatism is the operative word here.

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The laws were still broken. No matter which president it was under. They knew what they were doing was wrong.

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By your logic, you want to create 11 million fugitives hiding from the new law enforcement apparatus that would have to be created to hunt them down and process them. We really can’t afford that. If half of them self report, we now only have half the job to do. Pragmatism is the operative word. Absolutism really isn’t practical.

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No amnesty and certainly not without prejudice.

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They aren’t hard to track down. Our government already knows where they are. The issue is getting these sanctuary cities to cooperate. So you tell them, “Fine, you don’t want to cooperate, then no federal dollars for you or your state.” See how quickly they round them up themselves.

Reagan tried the Amnesty thing once, and look what happened with that; it turned California blue.

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The enemy within Border Security and Criminal Intelligence Act we agree en certain points take a look to my bill

Apparently you aren’t reading what I wrote. The only “amnesty” in my proposal is that people who haven’t broken any other laws are still allowed to apply for legal entry, AFTER they have returned to their country of origin, in compliance with LEGAL immigration policies. Not turning themselves in for voluntary deportation removes that allowance and earns them total banishment from ever entering the US again.

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You have too many moving parts there, and I object to the creation of yet another international intelligence gathering agency to monitor everyone.

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No amnesty. There need to be mass deportations in order to discourage this behavior in the future.

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We have done this many times in the past. Every time Congress does it they say it’s the last time that will happen and they legalize a bunch of illegals. No, Reward of American citizenship for breaking law. Just because they broke the law and snuck into our country doesn’t mean we should reward them for bad behavior. In fact, I support people who have been deported from the United States to never have the opportunity to become a United States citizen. We are not obligated to just allow whoever wants to be here to be here. As a nation, we should be looking for the best of the best, not Just whoever comes in.

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I am reading exactly what you wrote, my friend. You are saying that people who haven’t broken any other laws… The issue is that they still broke the main one: sneaking into our country illegally. That is unforgivable, no matter how well-meaning.

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Absolutism is almost never productive.

No amnesty.

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Marvin, if I may, I support immigration reform and making a path to citizenship easier. However, I do not support the idea that the US should metaphorically throw up it’s hands and say ‘Well they are already here so might as well make them legal’. That would set a bad precedent that I am absolutely sure the incoming administration would not support. What I would support is a path for certain immigrants to have the opportunity to obtain status that is currently available such as work visas, U Visas, T Visas, DACA, and student Visas. I would support these methods being promoted and opened up, and the path being made easier. We DO NEED a mass deportation to ease the strain on the housing and job markets. Most of the catch and deport would initially be handled by local law enforcements and then to already existing federal agencies. We also need mass deportation and an expansion of local agencies to fight both human trafficking and drug trafficking that has become a major problem thanks to our open borders.

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Slow down and read what I wrote originally again. In no way did I advocate for amnesty that allows anyone to remain here. The opportunity for amnesty that I am advocating for is ONLY available to someone who presents themself voluntarily for deportation back to their country of origin. Only then can they apply for entry into the US, through legal means. If they have existing criminal records or charges not related to crossing the border here or in their home country, they are ineligible forever. If they fail to present themselves and have to be apprehended, they are ineligible forever. My point is to limit the expense and accelerate the rate at which they are removed by providing some incentive, leaving only the worst to be tracked down and forcibly evicted.

It’s very simple, if you entered the country illegally, then you are ineligible for citizenship.

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Okay, so if I am understanding correctly, you are proposing an incentive for people to turn themselves in in the hopes that they can regain entry, but they would still be deported once they’ve turned themselves in? Is that right? That is more palatable, but isn’t very likely to be successful as I expect most would not want to uproot their lives for a chance that they might be able to come back. It also doesn’t save on the expense of deportation. I would save money on apprehension, but only if the promise of consideration is enough to incentivise them to turn themselves in.