“Progress”, huh? Would you consider yourself a progressive then? Is this the comment you and your fellow trolls came up with at the Tel Aviv troll farm?
Because everybody knows you can’t argue with an old man without looking like a jerk, lol.
Well played spook.
Give this man space! He’s 81 years old! Just here to brush up on the 'ol gmo’s issue, and still after all these charade of posts, can’t make up his mind, can’t decipher where he stands!
I am not trying to feel good by exchanging text with you – nor am I trying to deny you hope for change because of your age.
What I AM doing, is reminding you that, when you tell the American Public that its OK to break a few eggs in order to make an omlet, and the eggs belong to your neighbors but the omlet is something you are pushing to get, then you’re are out of line with American values by openly insisting that others simply deal with it because it is progress. GMO modification does not happen in a vaccum. I work hard every year to keep my heirloom seeds from getting contaminated by others who hold your views.
If you are truly 81, and an American, then you should respect my objections to your statements instead of calling it “a useless waste of time and energy”, If you want to make progress on things like you say, then start creating policy suggestions instead of trying to get people to embrace GMO engineering even though many want nothing to do with it. Convincing others NOT to change, or to embrace"what already is" is not the way to make progress, so your statement makes no sense. The objection to unrestrained open-pollination of GMO plants (and GMO winding up in my stomach) [which you call “progress”] is very simple…I shall highlight it below…
It is hard to believe that you are 81 and still have a problem grasping the concept of “Do No Harm” (at the expense of others). Nevertheless, have a nice day.
Yes, dear lady, I really am 81. And, yes, I would really like to see some “progress” on many issues while still sharing our universe with you and others. I’m not sure why I care since after my last email I shall no longer be involved but I have, with few exceptions, always wanted to see everyone else happy, even those that will never be so.
One thing I have learned is that some people will never be happy because what they seek with much desire they will never attain. It is simply not pissible in this complicated thing we call “life”. I wish them well in their endeavors but I know, in the end, they will never be satisfied. Perhaps a little bit because they will have small victories from time to time but they will never overcome man’s inhumanity to man.
What I read in your posts saddens me immensely. They have poked a hole in my balloon of hope that DOGE is going to make any significant changes in the end.
To paraphase “You can make some of the people happy all of the time, and some of the people none of the time, but you cannot make all of the people happy all of the time”.
And I figured out that it was a singular waste of my life to be really angry at anybody. Generally, it makes me tired and they don’t care how I feel anyway.
I hope you find happiness someday.
I followed the Johnson v. Monsanto trial in San Fransisco in 2019.
The lawfirm representing Johnson plaintif posted the evidence being presented in the trial, aka “the Monsanto papers” found at the link below.
It exposes the interior documents, emails of Monsanto administration and personal that they KNEW their products kill people and cause cancer. Yet spend billions to publish the opposite in the media.
I strongly encourage anyone with any interest in what psychopathic crimes Monsanto is guilty of, follow the yt video series put out by the attorney representing the plaintif R. BRENT WISNER.
I don’t have a working knowledge of the law, or how to write policy that doesn’t counteract or undo other “good” law.
Other than Monsanto running and hiding under the dress of Bayer for survival, I don’t know why they haven’t gone bankrupt, been forced to pay to victims, or why existing laws aren’t robust enough to enforce.
Policy seems easy to create in comparison to law changes, and I think laws changes and bans on products, and chems is more immediately necessary in the short term. I think the laws pertaining to what is and is not allowed to be patented has bearing on this issue… you can ban roundup, ban glyphosate, but they can tweak the recipe and quantity of any number of ingredients, or even use more toxic ingredients, and call it something else, make new research claims of safety, and market something entirely worse, and it takes us another 10 - 20 years to catch up to and outlaw
Build a new Organic Seed Library? Years yes; but get rid of Monsanto / Bayer; all GMO’s.
You know what…that really ain’t a bad idea, DarlaJean! It could pull the rug right out from under their feet. If we can create a Library of Congress or a Smithsonian Institute, then we can certaily build a ‘Library of Seeds’. And perhaps over time, we can also map the seed genomes and store them in a digital library of sorts, free for public access. This would really screw up the GMO industry, knowing that we have successfully recorded and created an “official standard” for a particular non-GMO plant variety – and they couldn’t submit patent requests for every little insignificant molecular arrangement twist or destructive variation to the originally mapped and recorded plant variety. This Library could officially serve as a storehouse for such legal and scientific standards, and we could start “locking down” GMO variation attempts against these genomic varieties. The GMO industry would whither on the vine like a genetically-modified infertile sweet pea. 
I remember, in college, donating part of my personal computer processing time to help with the mapping of the entire human genome. I downloaded and installed software on my computer such that my system would be remotely accessed at times of non-use, and the processing of data would be performed on my local machine, finally uploading the processed information back to the source I remember the sound of my hard drive spinning up, frantically reading/and writing in the middle of the night, while laying in my dormitory cot It made me feel happy, knowing that I was contributing even in a small way, to that scientifically-historic undertaking. The entire human genome was finally mapped out by tens of thousands of computers set up to remotely process a slice of the human puzzle (just like my computer), and I saved a newspaper article mentioning final completion of “The Human Genome Project.” It feels nice to be able to have left a tiny footprint in the sand while momentarily walking on the shores of Life, doesn’t it?
I bet Americans would again step up to the plate again for this wonderful effort. I would donate more of my computer cycles to assist in the mapping of the “Black Krim Tomato Variety” and the “Mississippi Purple Hull Pea” for starters! The new Seed Library non-GMO mapping project could create a website and allow anyone to go in there, select what they want to help map out, and download the software for remote processing of their favorite plant varieties. Who says Americans can’t rise to the occassion of a nobel and just cause? I love the idea and hope it happens!!! 
UPDATE: The suggested policy proposal in the above-mentioned post has been created. Link below:
They also sue neighboring farms if their product blows over onto the neighboring farm. They have so much money that they take small farmers to court and outspend them. They don’t win on merit. They win by tactic of outspending causing more harm. 100 percent agree - get them out.
Sounds sensible! Why not perform an overhaul of the Department of Agriculture and include farmers from all locations in leadership roles to lead subcommittees that assure individual farming states perform to newly set standards based on reforms proposed by RFK’s HHS.
The point is to take all the crap out of the foods, that we can’t pronounce and don’t know what it is.
Ya know Susan, I always felt that any Natural seed was not permitted to become Re-Patented at all? I felt that law of changing any percentage of a THING, even if 20% +, was meant for anything other than NATURE? I guess I was wrong. From experiments of home growers and very little of my own, it seems impossible to find Natural seeds anymore. There are company’s from years back that may still have buckets of Original Organics left>
Furthermore; the GMO patents also have their own ORGANIC GMO PATENTS. It’s truly disgusting.
But I do know there are a couple of Organic SEED Library’s that are Private. That in itself has to be very difficult to keep them very long as their shelf lives must be all different? IDK…
One person to ask who is the PATENT MASTER of the World, in my opinion, is Dr.David Martin. ( https://youtu.be/5iFMP99ql4Q?si=5jcvqnAwavGkmHJo
He would know the laws, the history of: Patents and how to find their sources.
I know from the fashion industry, that the cotton seeds were OWNED by the cotton organizations. In order to acquire seeds, grow or even find out about cotton fibers and fabrics SOURCES; a designer or individual needed to be a member of the organization.
I do believe though if you want to build a database; Dr.Martin can give you an excellent start. You might be surprised if you can get a hold of him? He is global…
I’ve tried to keep seeds myself; and without knowing much at all; had little luck at keeping them. So finding people who actually HAVE a TRUE ORGANIC SEED LIBRARY would be best. And there is a person on YouTube that has one.
I’m glad someone is interested; so many home growers are spinning their wheels and We need to get them back.
SEEDS are of a “Precious Value.”
Was hoping to see someone like Joel Salatin, Allan Savory or Will Harris get the position. Hopefully they will at least play a part. Cannot really include every farmer because some are very dependent on the system that was dictated to them by government and some are very dependent on selling to China.
I don’t know how many know this! Monsanto DOES NOT WANT THIS TO GET OUT!!!
First, PROOF!!!
Trademark of glyphosate-based herbicide made by Monsanto
Go to the bottom of the page at: Weed Control | Roundup It says it is from the Bayer Group. Google says monsanto
GUESS what is so special about that monsanto seed, other than the fact that the female parts of the plant are sterile! BTW the MALE parts of the plant are NOT sterile, so if a nearby farm gets fertilized by the male part of a monsanto plant, the NEW seeds can sprout and create a hybrid that is ALSO sterile, but monsanto will sue them for patent infringement! For those that don’t know, the stamen of the plant is the male part, and it produces pollen. That is spread by the wind, insects, small animals, etc… Corn is a weird plant. MOST plants have flowers, that have the male part in the center… With corn, the cobs have the female parts that become the corn cobs, and the male part is right at the very top of the plant.
As for the reason for GMO?
“PROS”
CONS!
It is worth noting that roundup is a VERY powerful weed killer! I had a weed that sent out tubers. It was HUGE, HARDY, and IMPOSSIBLE to destroy or really remove. I put ONE drop on ONE leaf of the plant, and the WHOLE THING DIED! Within a week it was ALL shriveled up!
NORMAL corn is nowhere NEAR as hardy as that weed was. Roundup would KILL normal corn.
If you eat GMO corn, you are likely ingesting glyphosate(roundup) AS WELL! Likely not much, and you won’t taste it etc… but it all adds up!
BS comments like this is why DOGE will fail. No serious consideration. About as useful as X or Facebook. Normal anti-social media.
We see you. What tribe do you belong to Huth? You’re either a troll, or ignorant. But I’ve never seen anyone who’s ignorant about gmo’s be as passionately emphatically ignorant as you are. Of ALL the issues to be unintelligent, uninformed about, you pick gmo’s? You insist on opening your confused mouth and polluting the commons with your daft DEFENSES no less… lol.
It’s not like gmo’s just came on the market yesterday. Criticism OF them, and evidence of their harms isn’t hard to find either. Yet you remain steadfast in your ignorance, and resolute in your defense and spread of misinformation. Have you really been asleep under a rock for the past 60 years? Really tiny hat?
Why don’t you go watch some documentaries and read some books before opening your mouth about something you know nothing about and polluting this space with your ignorant takes. It’s no one’s responsibility here to bring you up to speed. OR, DO you already know about gmo’s and you’re here to protect your investment, and market by sowing confusion and discord?
As far as I’m concerned you should take this opportunity to show some good faith, otherwise you can fuck all the way off.
