Ai is out of control and poses an extreme danger to humanity ! The use of Ai to create MRNA vaccines is too dangerous to consider! Have we learned nothing from the covid debacle ?
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Where is your proof, not opinion?
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The problem isā¦ who is controlling these systems, and who can get their hands on it in the future!!
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Ai is becoming autonomous . What happens then ?
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Itās already here. Did you see what the stock market did today on the release the CCP AI app DeepSeek?
āS&P 500 Gains and Losses Today: AI Stocks Plunge as DeepSeek Model Gains Tractionā
Glenn talks about his experience with DeepSeek. In the next segment Glenn talks to William Herthing who wrote books prediction this over 10 years ago. I have not found a video of that yet.
āhttps://youtu.be/XweC62joiDI?t=103ā
Interesting movie from 1970 that predicted this.
Colossus: The Forbin Project
āColossus The Forbin Project ( 1970) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archiveā
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Weāve learned that 60% of the population are sheep. AI will be foisted and run by PIGS. We must become like wolves, dolphins, penguins, deep sea turtles, otters. Take your pick.
This is the same as saying ātechnology must be stopped.ā
There is and has been a dark side to all technology advancement since day 1 (For example, teenagers and social media). Hereās the good news:
We are the equivalent of āboiling frogsā in our self-destruction so we wonāt feel the heat. 
(This reminds me to reread the Bibleās book of Revelation.)
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No ,itās not the same as" all technology must be stopped " ! This " technology "can think for itself .
When we turn over control to AI that is now capable of being autonomous ,we are placing humanity in grave danger ! It can decide that the human race is a danger to itās survival and turn against us ! What could possibly go wrong ?
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I asked GPT and it disagrees with you.
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What did you expect?
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Um, Iām actually happy with the idea that ātechnology must be stoppedā. Just mentioning it since it sounds like people are assuming thatās a preposterous idea. Weāve gone way too far with technology and way too fast. Not to mention, just because we can do a thing doesnāt always mean we should. As few people have any integrity anymore āadvancementsā are weighed, not by the good they might do for the population, but by how much money they can make. Change is only good when itās an improvement, and so many things are not improvements anymore except to someoneās pocketbookā¦ or agenda.
Iām okay with it if we stop our technological advancement right after at dish washers, vacuum cleaners, and the option of motorized vehicles, in case anyone wants an unsolicited opinion. Iāll go back to canning produce and Iāll learn how to sew my familyās clothes if I have to, like my mother did. This technological lifestyle weāre all living (me included, though likely far less than most) is not healthy for anyone and thatās only going to get worse, like a net closing in around us all.
We need to stop the AI, I agree. It doesnāt matter of itās useful. We donāt need all this stuff. We are moving much too far away from how humanity is supposed to live, and this is just going to skyrocket us further and further away. I try to avoid the AI on everything.
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What poses as the real ādanger to the U.S.ā is when Chinaās AI tech. continues to move forward until it hits near infinite AI processing capabilities, providing countless solutions to distant space or time manipulation/transportation while the U.S. is still running around in circles with its trusty Book of Revelations, and claiming that the sky is falling because we decided to use a hand-held calculator instead of an abacus. THERE is the real ādanger to the U.S.ā.
AI is considered ādisruptive technologyā, and that is precisely why we cannot afford to be on the ass-end of this newly evolving front. It represents a national security threat to NOT stay ahead of the pack. Some people watch too many Hollywood Terminator movies and that is about as much exposure that they have on AI. We should never make policy based on āscary moviesā or lack of knowledge ā but we should always make policy regarding future U.S. threats based on the technological advancements of other countries. Throwing a U.S.-abacus or bible at a Chinese-made AI-driven military apparatus is not exactly a model demonstration of effective military policy.
Side Note: To our cavemen ancestors, the method of creating fire represented a ādisruptive technologyā of that time. We wouldnāt be here now if they ran around outside the cave yelling that it could burn everyone up because it was āscary and hotā. They leaerned to contain and use it, and they didnāt let their imaginations run wild at the expense of freezing to death or not keeping the wolves at bay. Same thing applies here and now, in 2025, with AI. AI is simply the ānew fireā and the U.S. will either live or die by it.
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I agree. But also, I named my second son Connor.
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Marcos, if you walked a finer line atop that fence row, you might disappear within the fence. 
Thank you Sue.
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@SueK āā¦while the U.S. is still running around in circles with its trusty Book of Revelationsā¦ā āā¦ AI is simply the ānew fireā and the U.S. will either live or die by it.ā
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"But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and its works will be laid bare."2 Peter 3:10
Just saying.
Though you do make a good point about keeping up with China etc. That does need to be factored in to any decision making.
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I think we are making excellent points for one another. I agree with you that we should respect the Good Book because it is a cornerstone of our faith and our traditions.
And just like you agree with me regarding our staying ahead of this disruptive technology, for our own survivalā¦
I also see your post as a good example to underscore my positionā¦thatā¦back then, the fear was FIREā¦today it is AI. The moral of that story might be: The more things change, the more they remain the same. 
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The problem I see with this is the underlying implication that the fears are baseless. Fire is something to fear. It is very dangerous, powerful, and deadly. It is also something with benefits if we harness it and use it correctly but there are still risks and accidents and injuries. Whereas AI is powerful but not at all natural. I donāt think itās going to be used correctly and with integrity, etc., even though there may be benefits. And we donāt know what the risks, accidents, and injuries might be.
Perhaps thatās more to the point.
I donāt think this is all āfear of the new thingā and scary movie residue. We are saturating our world with this new technology that even the people making it donāt understand yet. We donāt have the slightest idea what the consequences might be. Thatās a foolish thing to do.
It also feels fishy, like itās being done on purpose with an agenda behind it.
This wonāt be a popular thing to say but I donāt trust computers 100% already. They donāt work the way they say they do, like some ābattlefield Earthā (L. Ron Hubbard) scenario. I suspect thereās something not true in what weāre told. I donāt know what it is but itās there. Magnify that into AI and ā¦ no thankyou. AI feels like a trap, smells like a trap, and I donāt advocate sticking our heads into it. I can understand that this logic doesnāt sway other people. Iāll still be throwing every Alexa type product, etc., out on the curb if I can find it in the house.
I asked AI to make me a picture of itās true nature once. It showed me a disembodied human brain floating with what looking like an umbilical cord that went up into the stars.
Nope. Everyone else can go on ahead, I donāt want none, no thankyou.
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The Battle Field Earth reference, by the way, is referring to the part in the novel where an alien race had cornered the market on a form of transportation. No one else could make the engines work and they kept the technology secret. Only their people could fix the engines and they used it to control everyone. When other people opened the engine casing, they saw an engine that made no sense and it never worked again. When the alien race did maintenance, they checked for surveillance thoroughly, etc, and could fix it easily. I donāt recall how someone found out how they did it but the point was the engine was completely fake, gibberish to distract people, and the real āengineā was a circuit on the lid of the engine casing that would break whenever someone else would open it.
Thereās something going on in the world thatās a fundamental deceit like that. People can feel it. I know I sure can and other people I know can also.
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Sugarling, I understand your hesitancy to technology and find it quite similar to most all others who take the same suspicious view of AI; and out of respect for our past pleasant exchanges, suffice it to say, I will not pick apart your posting with cold precision of which I would otherwise be quite tempted to do in the making of my own points.
We do differ on the reasons why some reject AI while others embrace it. You state that it is not out of fear, but then you mention how you feel about it, and even reference a book that you read. This is precisely what I meantā¦maybe I could have been more broad in my expressions and replaced the word āfearā with āfeelingsā or replaced the term āHollywood moviesā with āworks of fictionā. I believe my point remains so, that those averse to AI do it out of āfeelingsā and improper expectations based on earlier referenced materials found in expressed fictional settings; and those who might embrace AI do it out of ālogicā and a past comfortable understanding of computer systems, evolving technologies, and Manās continued advancement because of this valued field of science.
As a computer scientist who worked with computers in a major telecom firm for over a quarter of a century, I have seen the gradual advancement of computer hardware and software systems, watched and participated in the roll-out of a brand new network called āthe internetā which less than ,05% of the population was using at the time, and even took a couple of courses in artifical intelligence computer programming at a university when the field was still in its infancy: Lisp (List Processing) and ProLog (Logic Programming). Because of this constant exposure, I am not apprehensive about computer equipment or software, and I see AI as simply the next logical step in our technological evolution. There is no āfeelingā ā no fear, no apprehension, no concerns of technology taking over and doing things to me against my will.
Now, what if I took a different path in life, and became a music teacher instead? I would know nothing about computers, except perhaps how to interact with their interfaces. And, if I took off the computer cover, the insides would look foreign to me ā perhaps like another world, riddled with wires, circuit boards, chips, etc. The only thing that my mind could draw from, in order to make sense of it, would be from fictional settings and gut feelings. In that case, I would be totally in your camp, and perhaps see AI as the makings of a Star Trek Borg ship, where āresistance would be futileā. See my point?
The mind draws on what it needs to formulate a frame of reference for understanding the world around it. This in turn creates the opinions and viewpoints which govern interactions between one another (as would be the case even in this forum). That said, I see your viewpoint as it would come from the left, and my viewpoint as it would come from the right. Our minds are wired that way and I donāt expect your ādynamic feelingsā to change about AI, just as you might expect my āstatic logicā not to be undone by feelings.
I think at this stage, I can say that, although I understand your concerns, I do not agree with your views, and vice versa as you explained. So, we agree to disagree on AIā¦EXCEPT on one crucial pointā¦
That point would be, that your feelings will not stop China from entering an AI race with the United States. Nor will my lack of feelings on the matter hinder Chinaās advancement. And if America does not ensure its continued safety with dominant American AI technology, then China will ensure that the U.S. belongs to China, based on generaous covert and overt use of its own superior AI technology. So as I stated previously, America will either live or die by AI, and gut feelings will not change that fact. In legend, Prometheus once gave us fire. Now he has graced us with AI ā there is no giving it back.
I enjoyed the exchange with you Sugarling. Thanks.