No Property Tax 
Fixed it for you
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Yes, certain civilians may qualify for full or partial property tax exemptions, often based on factors such as age, income, disability, and specific occupations. Here are some common ways civilians might qualify:
1. Senior Citizens: Many states offer property tax reductions or exemptions for seniors over a certain age, often 65 or older. Income and residency requirements may apply.
2. Low-Income Residents: Some jurisdictions provide property tax relief to homeowners with limited income, allowing partial or full exemption based on specific income thresholds.
3. Disabled Individuals: Civilians with disabilities may qualify for property tax reductions or exemptions. This can apply to people who are legally blind or have other qualifying disabilities, depending on state criteria.
4. Homeowners in Specific Occupations: First responders (like firefighters or police officers), especially those injured in the line of duty, sometimes qualify for property tax exemptions.
5. Homestead Exemptions: Some states have “homestead exemptions” that reduce the taxable value of primary residences. These exemptions are not always full exemptions but can significantly lower the tax burden.
6. Historic or Agricultural Properties: Certain states provide tax relief for owners of historical landmarks or agricultural land to promote preservation or support farming.
Eligibility and exemption amounts vary widely by location, so it’s best for civilians to check with local tax authorities to see what property tax relief options might apply to them.
Up until 1923 there were no taxes in USA and guess what there were police fire schools all the things you have now, check it out it’s called history. Most the money you pay in taxes pays for the political lifestyle of your so called representatives
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I do know about such provisions. That said, property tax needs to end for everyone. It is unconstitutional and a violation of federal land patent laws, which provide land to the patentee and his heirs and assigns forever. The Supreme Court already ruled in two cases that if an authority is not granted to a government in the patent itself at the time it is awarded, the authority does not exist. Summa Corp. v. California and Leo Sheep Company v. US. There is no authority in my land patent or anyone else’s to tax the land and improvements. It is supposed to grant allodial title. A land patent is a federal law, passed by Congress and signed by the President.
We tried to have a referendum which would exempt senior citizens completely, but we had no money to pay for people to gather signatures. We fell just short of enough to get the item on the ballot. The legislature passed a watered down law that provides for some reductions. They put in property value limits. The county always makes sure my property is valued just above the limit so I di not qualify. There is always a way. I pay 15% of my social security income in property taxes. I have no mortgage. Property tax is eating up my savings. My savings has to last me the rest of my life.
It will be far more expensive for them to care for me if they take my property. It makes no sense. It is past time to end property tax for good, or at least for people who are “land poor”, who do not get the income needed. It is not based on ability to pay. It is just plain wrong and always has been.
In this forum, I am asking the incoming President to start enforcing the land patent laws. Property taxes can and should be replaced with excise taxes. This means sales taxes on non-necessities, i.e. a luxury tax. Exemptions for food, supplements and pharmaceuticals, and used cars and clothing. The material that makes a home is subject to sales tax. That is enough.
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There are some things the government should not be doing. Like public “schools”. Education is none of the government’s business. Prior to public schools, there was a 98% literacy rate in the US. Philanthropists provided scholarships for children who needed them. Most learned to read at home from the King James Bible. Learning to read is the key to all other learning. A person who can read can learn anything else he needs to know. Government doesn’t need to provide electricity, water, sewer, trash pickup, or fire departments. All this can be done privately. We had a private fire department, and people subscribed. The cost annually was around $70. If you didn’t subscribe and had a fire, you had to pay the full cost of fighting it. They held an election to decide if the government should take over the fire department. We were not notified. It passed. My annual cost is now $700. This is true across the board. The government should only be providing police, courts, and roads. Roads should be paid for by gas taxes. Police and courts can easily be paid for by a small increase in sales taxes.
That doesn’t counter my argument at all. Me and the OP are not talking about going back to a previous iteration of the tax code, funding anything, etc.
The discussion is about who pays property taxes, not what should be the government’s responsibilities.
The government’s responsibilities are an integral part of this question, because it is the fact government does things it has no business doing that provides the pressure to keep taxing property in the first place, especially against those who cannot pay, which results in government taking property and violating the Constitution and giving it to a rich banker without him having to pay for it. We won’t have real reform of property tax until the government gets its mitts out of areas that don’t concern it. I have the ability to speak out about this, and I am going to do so. And another thing: people are being taxed to support a system that teaches vulnerable children things to which they are diametrically opposed. And some of these things are religious in nature, another violation. And yet, if we do not fund these things, we lose what we worked for. In my state, it would mean being tossed out into the street with nothing.
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Yes. Taxes stay the same as purchase price. Once house is sold, new owner pays increased tax amount.
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Along with Property tax being an issue. We called our Home Owner Insurance company. We said we were being over insured. We wanted to cobwr our Mortgage balance plus 100K.
Ins company told us “That isn’t how it works. We tell you how much coverage you have to have.”
My husband replied “But Im the Customer, I should be tell you what I want.” “This will save u money and if you have to pay out, it saves you money.”
Ins company “No, it does not work that way.”
The next year our premium increase $277 per month.
Our basic mortage payment is still $1200. We pay $2,080 to the Mtg company to cover Homeowners Insurance and Property taxes. We are on a fixed income, that $277 increase was our grocery budget. This, for us is a bigger issue than Mortgage rates. Besides, if the ins premium wasn’t so high, we could be paying down the mortgage interest much faster and own the Deed to our house.
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Yes Property Taxes for Seniors needs to be abolished
So someone who is 65 years or older can move to any place in the country never have put a dime into that community and be tax-free I don’t think so.
I’ve been paying property taxes in my community for 10 years and by the time I’m 65 I will have paid them for 25 years my taxes have went to the roads and the fire department the ambulance service in the hospital I have roots in the community I am invested in the community. I would be okay with saying no property taxes at all, I would be okay with saying 10 or 25 years of property taxes and then they’re gone. But I am not okay with a 65-year-or older who’s going to have long-term care needs and hospital needs coming in and leaching off a community they’ve never put anything into.
Long term care is either paid by health ins, Medicare/ Medicaid or you sell your assets has nothing to do with property taxes
Hello & correction. Property taxes are a direct tax like income tax. Before 1913 and Amendment 16 direct taxation like property and income tax were illegal. Government tried several scams to start direct taxation but the Courts found them unconstitutional. We can return to pre 1913 taxation protection by Repeal of Amendment 16. Problem solved. Have a Blessed Day, Fred Walker Constitutional Amendment
Hello: “no Property Taxes at all” I have a Proposal for you and every other Citizen. Please Consider my Proposal. Have a Blessed Day, Fred Walker
THANK YOU! You sound like someone that would be a great help promoting my Proposal. Have a Blessed Day, Fred Walker Please consider:Constitutional Amendment
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You’re welcome. I have a loud voice, but a very limited audience. I have written about this. Think of this: the government has proposed income tax on unrealized capital gains. People will have to find a way to fork over money from assets they haven’t sold. Lots of people are upset by this. But consider: property tax IS a tax on unrealized capital gains, and it happens repeatedly, until you end up paying the total value of the asset in your lifetime! And all based on a fiction: an arbitrary value on property based on what other property in the area has sold for, with NO GUARANTEE that if you DID sell your property, you would get that kind of price. We sold two homes for well under asking price, so I speak from personal experience.
And that’s not all. You aren’t just being taxed on the capital gains, but also on what you paid for the property to begin with, money that was ALREADY taxed once with income tax.
Property tax is a violation of the Constitution and federal land patent laws. Land patents were issued to people who bought property from the government and fulfilled certain other requirements. Each was a law passed by Congress and signed by the President. Each says that the land is conveyed to the patentee AND HIS HEIRS AND ASSIGNS FOREVER. Which means that states that take your property in total without compensation are violating the land patent law, not to mention the Takings Clause (just compensation for eminent domain takings). Each of us has title, which means each of us is an assign if not the original patentee. And the Supreme Court has already ruled in two other takings cases that if an authority on behalf of the government is not specified in the patent itself when it was issued, it is FOREVER BARRED. NO land patent gives authority to any government to tax the land. See Summa Corp. v. California 466 U.S. 198 (1984) and Leo Sheep Company v. US. 440 U.S. 668 (1979). 8 to 0 decisions, with Chief Justice Rehnquist writing the opinion. Rehnquist was a history buff and based his decision on the HISTORY OF LAND PATENTS.
I do not disagree with much of your summery. That said I’m looking for a simple solution that removes the root of the problem. That is Repeal Amendment 16. This would return us to pre 1913 Law where Direct Taxation was found to be unconstitutional. Returning choice to the Citizenry will solve the resulting taxation ideologies. Choice and equal application of taxation is the goal. Have a Blessed Day, Fred Walker
I don’t see the relevance of Amendment 16. It provides for income tax, not property tax. It provides for a FEDERAL tax, but property taxes are state and local, which was the case with any state or local taxes prior to Amendment 16. If you think it somehow legitimizes property tax, please explain.
Amendment 16 is an equivalent to a blank check. Note it allows government to define income. Government can and has defined income as anything that produces money. When your house value increases government defines that as income. Government can set the amount of tax without limit. The tax doesn’t have to be apportioned nore does it have to be equal. Because Amendment 16 is part of Our Constitution it applies to the Federal and State Government. Before 1913 and Amendment 16 Direct Taxation like Income and Property Tax were unconstitutional. Just like Amendment 18 stopped the sale of alcoholic beverage’s across the entire United States. Amendment 22 Repealed Amendment 18 allowing the production and sales of alcoholic beverage’s across the United States. This is why I Propose Repeal of Amendment 16. That will return restrictions on Government Direct Taxation across the United States as it was before 1913.