Indian reservations

They don’t need a government hand out. $0.

What they need is increased self sufficiency. Our military used to also be used as an engineering force, if you want to use our tax dollars, pay for what they need, don’t hand someone a million and say ‘be sure to be responsible’.

Our soon-to-be administration so so focused on terraforming the surface of Mars, yet these people live on barren land with no natural resources, food or raw material. If it’s found that they do, the government get’s involved since it’s all under ‘federal trusts’ instead of actual sovereignty.

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This wasn’t the case for all of the victims of the Trail of Tears, and the legislatively defined ‘5 Civilized Tribes’ of which had their own written languages, constitutions, and bi-lingual newspapers.

They’d like you to believe that they were uncivilized savages, but these were nations and cultures of people, erased through ethnic cleansing and concentration camps.

Your points about land stewardship are key to improving the situation the Tribes are in without furthering the ‘welfare state’ situation that they are in. Proper ownership of land (sovereignty) or proper representation as a state/entity in Congress is important to removing the roadblocks that prevent Tribes from properly funding their governments and establishing streams of revenue through food/product production rather than deplorable industries like gambler tourism. Currently they pay into their own tribal governments, the state governments, and the federal government.

Someone mentioned the bison hunters, primary example of the destruction of Native self-sufficiency and the ethnic cleanse of the West. I don’t think we will get back to the bison herds and the open range, but it’s the ideas and principles of autonomy during this time that are essential to the survival of their societies.

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Agree.

I did not know about official constitutions or bilingual newspapers. Interesting.

Just to clarify I was thinking people were smart and following the design of ecosystems. I believe that all people centuries ago moved around more because it is a survival technique for changing weather and finding food etc. Seasonal migration because different plants etc provide food and shelter. Also to find water.

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You arent wrong, it was mostly the plains and Sierra nevada natives that were migrants. Many tried to integrate, and were denied-and ofc most civs were migratory outside of China, the Levant, Europe, Meso-America, and east africa.

It wasn’t an attack on your statement, I might add. Like you stated, lots of people dont know that the US had a classification for the ‘5 Civilized Tribes’; the main point in them not being ‘savage’.

Our model of government (seperation of powers) is based on Iroquois decentralization of tribes → thus the creation of concentration camps, the concentration of these cultures.

Check out the history of the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, and Seminole.

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There is a lot I don’t know on this history. Will have to read up on it. This should really be taught in schools. I was thinking of migrating within the US boundaries as they are today. However, that is probably not a correct context as the US may not have had the boundaries we see today. The timeline or territorial evolution has been lost in context to this topic. Thank you for the insightful response. I will have to read up on this more.

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I live in northern Nevada and the piute tribe, at least have a reservation set right here in the city limits, they have decent housing, as well the reservation out at pyramid lake, there are still some that need a lot better communities for their tribes. I think it’s way past time that this changes for them all. If we look at it, they are the first true American, they should be treated much better then they are.

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I responded, but for some reason the @moderators have to approve it.

Lots of them have great federal funding. The Navajo have a huge high school, that could house ~300 children, yet there isn’t much more than ~33, with a 100% economic disadvantage rate.

We are wasting tax money by throwing it at them. Maybe there would have been enough kids if we didn’t establish boarding schools to ‘save the man, kill the indian’.

Self-sufficiency and independence/integration and representation are the only true paths forward.

If we are going to give them support and funding, it needs to be in the correct manner, granting socialized housing, schooling and services only increases their dependancy on the federal government.

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I have had that done a couple times. I think they are just trying to ensure the platform is running smoothly.

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I live in Northern Arizona and work on the Native American Reservations of Hopi and Navajo Nation. I’ve also worked with the Pima and Maricopa Indians in Gila River, AZ. My response to your proposal may sound harsh, but hear me out. Most of the people I have had the pleasure of treating (I’m in medicine) are alcoholics even though the entire Reservations are dry. Some people don’t have running water but they have access to wells. Northern AZ is almost all like this - it’s all rock and digging wells is nearly impossible and if you do get a well, it’s extremely expensive. Almost all houses are provided electricity through solar or electrical lines.

In many of the communities I’ve worked in, there is a requirement that a certain percentage of people working for each company must be Native. The unfortunate thing is that many of the Natives applying for a certain position are not educated or trained in the position, but they are hired just to satisfy the requirement. If they are qualified, they’ll get 30% additional points on an exam in order to be more competitive against other applicants.

They are also given money every single month. A lot of it actually and it depends on how much they get based on which tribe they belong to. Some people get $1800/month, others get more. And the payment is from the US federal government.

If babies are given a SSN at birth, they get federal funding - the same $$$ listed above. So many young girls will get pregnant just to increase their monthly income. This is guaranteed payment to them - as long as they’re registered in the tribe. When they have all this money given to them, they don’t have to work. This is socialism at its finest and to be honest, its devastating to witness first hand.

Some of the kindest, most generous people I know are Native Americans, but so are some of the ugliest and most hateful. They’ve been taught to hate Americans for stealing their land and performing medical experiments on them, so they have a right to feel that way. But not all of us are people who cause harm to others - but we still have to watch our backs. I drive 4 hours one way to work on the Reservation and I won’t drive there at night. I also respect the land so I don’t hike the beautiful, empty, places - because I am not allowed to do so.

My personal thoughts are that giving money to the Natives is definitely the furthest thing from what they need. They actually just need to be left alone and to be recognized as the sovereign nations that they are. America needs to form the boundaries as they do between Mexico and Canada and allow the Native People to run their own nations, not hand them more money.

ButterflyBumblebee has made some really great points in their posts here. I hope my insight isn’t taken offense but it’s the truth of what I witness every day. One of my best friends is Navajo and she teaches me things about the land that I never knew. She also teaches me about using the juniper berries and ash from their needles to make corn mush. They farm using little to no water - it’s called dry farming - which is fascinating! They also trade silver and copper for gems found in the earth to make beautiful jewelry. There is so much we can learn from the Natives -

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You’re absolutely correct. The system of semi-sovereignty and government dependency has led to people seeking deplorable streams of income.

If The US government is going to continue to support the Tribal governments financially, it needs to be through infrastructure and resource development.

Some of the Tribe’s original homeland still sits untouched as National Parks, ripe with resourses and cultural history.

You said it perfect

If the tribe prefers a different solution other than sovereignty, they need integration as a State and representation in Congress so that their land and people can be developed and cared for.

Not a welfare state of federal dependency. No people should live unrepresented on Federal Territory. US colonialism and expansionism has ended, all Territory should be integrated or released.

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This is an interesting video on a recent Supreme Court Case. It does impact the Five “Civilized” Tribes Ethan has been talking about and the Sovereignty of land.

You can view it on Epoch TV if you have access. It’s not on rumble yet but is on youtube.

Supreme Court Ruling Cuts This State in Half | Facts Matter
Facts Matter with Roman Balmakov

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