You seem to love them, I can’t live with them.
Agree its about having a choice.
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Yes, thank you! Even indoors, I have difficulty seeing since the switch to LED bulbs.
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Lol, find new and creative ways to explain why LED’s suck, without actually using the words “LED’S” and “suck” in the same 2 word sentence.
OR, WE that want to could be freed from LED market tyranny, green scam tyranny, health deficiencies, and mad scientist failures, and just use incandescents. Maybe it’s OK to accept and acknowledge some things can’t really be improved upon. Incandescents are a beautiful thing.
They are not inefficient. They used to last 100 years. Then companies purposely made them cheaper/less efficient to increase purchases/profit but they actually are the best —by far— add “bring back the original incandescents”!! Now LEDs contribute to cataracts.
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Like many have pointed out above, many of the symptoms presented in this thread can be solved by one of the following:
- Acquire LED bulbs that are warmer in Kelvin (2700K for example)
- Acquire LED bulbs that are the appropriate brightness (Lumens). Something like 800 or less for most nightstand lamps for example. If the lights hurt your eyes, try lower brightness.
- LED Bulb quality matters. Some bulbs are needlessly expensive but buying a bulb without any reviews is not advisable. You don’t need to get $50 Hue bulbs for every room but you get what you invest in. I have LEDs that automatically turn on after dark from a daylight sensor every night and I have not replaced them since we moved in (2016). They were LG bulbs on clearance so we stocked up.
My SO absolutely hated LED bulbs but now she doesn’t care because I took the time to look into the Kelvin, Lumens, etc and she can not tell the difference in what bulbs in the house are still incandescent and what are LEDs. I get that it’s more work than just buying another 60Watt bulb and throwing it in there but the energy savings of LEDs and waste savings from short lived bulbs makes a difference.
I would suggest that it might prove to be better to propose regulations around the quality of LED bulbs. Something to make sure that cheap garbage is no longer bought, dies within a year, and gets tossed out and filling the various landfills around the US. To take it a step further, maybe have a mandatory run time warranty period so that the product that does die on the 366th day after purchase can be replaced at the manufacturer’s expense.
You are very myopic. And this is how we got here in the first place is myopic swamp sludges making policy to create tech monopolies. Under the guise of environmentalism and savings that don’t do either and actually do harm.
My “myopic” replies around regulation are specifically to address the multitude of comments above complaining that they either don’t last as long as incandescent, flicker, or any other symptom of some no name, often foreign company making low quality products to sell to people who don’t want to pay a dollar or two more to get something more reliable.
Regulation is, in my opinion, generally a bad thing but it is also the only way to prevent companies from flavoring sweet tasting products with something toxic like Lead Acetate as a sugar substitute just because it’s cheap. If the companies making cheap light bulbs are causing physcial harm like headaches or even just monetary harm through selling junk, then either ignore it or regulate the product to make it not do those things. Just because it’s regulation does not mean all of it is always and forever backed by guises and special interests. This entire forum is suggesting regulation that someone will benefit from, it’s just more important that the American people benefit more from them than any single corporation. Factually LED bulbs use less energy (~10 Watts for a 60 Watts Incandescent) and last longer on average 1k hours vs 15-25k hours). Realistically, the environmental and cost impact is small individually. Collectively, it might make a difference but LEDs are also too new to probably tell yet. In my opinion, LEDs are superior for what they can offer in most lighting environments.
As for claims of harm from blue light, there isn’t enough evidence to conclude that LEDs are emitting enough blue light to cause harm. The significant amount of blue light a person will receive is from the sun every day and not from bulbs or electronics. That is why it is more likely, with today’s data, that the cause of peoples symptoms that these lights cause them harm are other factors in my original post. For example, with the LED brake lights in vehicles at night comment, I think that some LEDs in vehicles should have a max Lumen rating because the lights don’t need to actually be that bright.
At the end of the day, I get it though. The tough truth is that the human race is adverse to change and a lot of people just don’t want to have to research the specifications for the bulbs they need and rather go back to the older ways of doing things at the first signs of adversity because it’s comfortable and “easier.” It’s not everyone, but that seems to be most folks I’ve run into from years of working in emerging technologies. 
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How did we get to this point in America where midwits such as yourself seek power to operate credentialed or otherwise, to “ignore”, to legislate, to change, to regulate free from obligation of reciprocity with the American people?
LED’S were forced on the entire country! When I go to my hardware store incandecents are unavailable. This is not a voluntary transaction or policy. This is not something that the American public voted for! So I don’t feel one iota of compunction to have to “ignore” it or live with it. I was willing to see how LED’S performed for myself, and the difference is like comparing the Mona Lisa to Pollacks Sea Change. One induces vomiting & headaches, and abnormal behavioral changes, and one does not.
You also have failed to do full accounting of costs imposed on the public. What you say proves that your criteria is myopic single issue cost/environment and fails at both. And just like women and liberals never do anything wrong, neither can you acknowledge failure. Which means we’ve boiled it down to made up, arbitrary criteria, Which means there’s no reason why incandecents can’t be remanufactured again. So it can begin to dawn on the “credentialed” self agrandizing midwits, that the people don’t want their shitty tech. Do your own research!
Whatever poster, if you can’t debate or communicate without constantly insulting people for having different ideas or opinions, you’re no better than the liberals slinging all the other “-phobe” labels when they are unable to effectively hold a conversation. It sure as hell isn’t going to change anyone’s mind.
Good luck in your adventures of trying to get incandescent bulbs back.
You seem triggered. We agree then that you FAILED at doing full accounting for all costs imposed on others, as well as this open season of experiments on the public, much like the covid “vaccines” was not voluntary, and the costs have and are continuing to acrue. YOU can sit down now and be quiet. Why? Because when you fail to do full accounting, and fail to acknowledge that you don’t, yet lie, omit, obfuscate, and persist that a failed policy should be maintained, just like liberals, you have blindspots that prevent you from arriving at sound consensus. Your opinions, and feelings don’t matter. You aren’t qualified. I am doing you a favor by not “ignoring” it, but stating the truth. Ignoring facts and truth, and indulging in opinions and feelings is how we got here to a knifes edge of losing the entire country. It’s time for the failed and unqualified to sit down, get out of the way. Can I get an amen?